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This has been bugging me for a while; When you push to cp2, into the ‘house’, on granary (though I guess there are similar situations on other maps), how do you know when to uber?

The other day I was playing a pickup with mostly people in a higher div than myself. I ubered as my demo and solly got spammed in cp2. I was sitting only slightly into the door, so obviously I could not see what was going on behind the wall. I was asked why I ubered, as apparently there was no need to, and although I didn’t think there was a point answering (it wouldn’t have changed anything), I was left to wonder “erm arent you supposed to tell me how busy it is? I’m not psychic o.O”. But they were all players in a higher div than myself, so I assumed it was my fault.

The pickup is just an example; I’ve been in this situation almost every time we push to cp2, w/e team or pickup I was in.

So I guess my question is; are the others supposed to tell me I’m going to need uber, or am I being dumb and is there a way I should’ve been able to judge this?

imo you shouldnt be forced pushing into second 90% of the time, if they force with using their uber fair enough, but you’re in a far better position than they are

its demos and sollies fault if they god spammed at cp2

there is no way you are going to get them to uber before you unless they let you waltz right in from the right side.

uber, push over the point, force theirs, send someone up top behind to distract, push back.

you are almost always going to have to uber before the defending team when you are attacking gran cp2.

call your teammates idiots if you uber and they dont push, call them idiots if they didnt call anything for you so you couldnt tell what was happening.

Quoted from Spike Himself

Fair points I guess, but how do I know whether they ubered or not? I mean, usually I can hear it, but there’s a pretty good chance I can’t because of too much noise on mumble.. Obviously I don’t want to stand directly behind the point as I’ll just get forced (or drop uber in my case!)

If your team aren’t even calling that the enemy team has ubered then they are obviously to blame, you shouldn’t have to sense whether they have ubered or not, basic stuff like that should be clearly clarified by your teammates. Also, you know not knowing where their combo is shows either a lack of comms or you not listening and considering there are other basic communications issues then I think its most likely the former.

If there’s so much ‘noise’ on mumble, as well as the other issues, then your team really needs to sort out their comms. Tbh, you don’t really sound like you’re the one to blame in this situation so I wouldn’t worry about it, but if you’re main calling make sure comms stay clear and concise.

I’m glad you agree with that, dummy ;)

Quoted from Spike Himself

I’m glad you agree with that, dummy ;)

so theres no problem?

I really like pushing garage, but you can just go balls out, push inside from right yard, uber when your heavies are on the point and catch spam, and move forwards into the enemy while your scouts cap. So use the uber as a barrier for your scouts to cap. The enemy has to retreat onto last, with a huge chance of being badly positioned, giving you a good shot at capping last right away. If not, you end up with equal ubers again but you have CP4; gg.

And in your specific situation, wasn’t really your fault.. if the heavies got spammed to a low health value, and not communicating anything, you’d want to save those heavies from catching those lethal last shots obviously.