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Mumble causing lag in TF2

Created 30th March 2010 @ 23:08

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SnowiE

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Over the last two weeks or so I’ve had really bad lag spikes that basically cause me to be unable to move in TF2 for about 20 seconds at a time, roughly 7-10 times a game minimum. I recently upgraded to mumble 1.2.2 and thought this was the problem, however going back to 1.2.0 hasn’t fixed it. I know it’s definitely mumble causing the problem because we’ve played using vent and using in-game comms and I haven’t lagged. I also don’t lag anymore as soon as I leave mumble. I’ve tried two different mumble servers, I lag on both.

These are my mumble settings (I tried to turn everything down to as low as possible, I’m prepared to lose all the quality I need to in order to get a stable mumble + TF2 experience again) –
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/1165/mumblesettings1.jpg
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9684/mumblesettings2.jpg
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5798/mumblesettings3.jpg

This is what happens in game (normally when there’s a lot of action, typically every mid-point battle)
Picture 1 – http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6527/lag01.jpg
Picture 2 – http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/8893/lag02.jpg
Picture 3 – http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1152/lag03.jpg
Picture 4 – http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3603/lag04.jpg
Picture 5 – http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2954/lag05.jpg
Picture 6 – http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8500/lag06.jpg

Pictures 4 and 6 show the worst of it. Picture 2 shows what happen after I die then respawn after the lag. Picture 3 shows my ‘normal’ connection in spawn. In picture 5 I think I’d lagged out and died but my connection hadn’t realised it yet.

My in-game settings are –
cl_cmdrate 66
cl_updaterate 66
rate 60000

My internet connection is a 512k download / 256k upload ADSL connection.

I run Windows XP.

Being the pocket soldier and main caller means the past two weeks have brought my clan to the brink of utter despair, please help!

octochris

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edit: whoops, misread first bit


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Fodi

I had the same for like a year with my old 1mbit ADSL inet. I tried pretty much like everything, but nothing helped: it happened both with ventri and mumble. The only solution was to change the provider and get a new connection. :

Anyway, how about an older version using mumble server?


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Fodi

doubled


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TroubleGirl

After this problem started, we didn’t try to play on mumble 1.1.8 yet. Thank you for suggestion! We didn’t thought of that as we hoped going back to 1.2.0 would work.

Haunter

i have the same problem when everyone talks at same time on mumble, still havent figured it out how to fix it

octochris

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Quoted from Haunter

i have the same problem when everyone talks at same time on mumble, still havent figured it out how to fix it

That’s more than likely just your connection getting saturated. What are the specs on your connection?

randa

Quoted from octochris

[…]

That’s more than likely just your connection getting saturated. What are the specs on your connection?

surely it can’t be that, I used to run off a less than one Meg connection and I could have 10 people in mumble screaming at each other and I wouldn’t lagg.

octochris

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Quoted from randa

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surely it can’t be that, I used to run off a less than one Meg connection and I could have 10 people in mumble screaming at each other and I wouldn’t lagg.

If the quality is high enough and the bandwidth is low enough, anything is possible. It should be possible to saturate it like that on a 512k connection.

Andee

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For windows XP users try this:

http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/forums/thread/425018/

I found this article on GotFrag. Might work, might not work. But its worth a shot. Hope it helps.


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octochris

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Quoted from Andee

For windows XP users try this:

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4168-TLZB-4976

I found this article on steam. Might work, might not work. But its worth a shot. Hope it helps.

Am I missing something, or does this have nothing to do with this thread? :|

I don’t see any mention of crashing DLLs in this thread…

octochris

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double post, bah


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Shabbaman

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Snowie, do you have this on all servers? Our belgian friend has similar issues with Mumble, but only on certain servers.

Waster

Maybe you can try to repeat the problem and when you got your lag, then check in your server browser. Maybe you can see if its server specific or not. And off course you can try a traceroute when you have the problem and when not.

And when does the lag occur. When you are transmitting or receiving or doesnt that matter? And when you experience lag spikes when there is heavy action ingame, maybe you can also try to reset your netsettings to the defaults for tf2.

Just some things you can test if you havent done yet.

SnowiE

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It’s happened on two completely different mumble servers, and happens on any TF2 server we play on (we have a UK and NL one, it’s also happened when on our opponents’ TF2 servers). If anyone has a mumble 1.1.8 server still it might be useful to try that, I’d really appreciate it if we could borrow some space on it for an evening.

I know my internet connection is extremely limited, but it was fine running mumble and TF2 until a few weeks ago.

I think it probably happens when there’s a lot of chat from other people happening, I’ve been silent and have still lagged out to the best of my knowledge. I’ll perhaps double check this tonight and see what happens if I don’t say a word.

I’ve tried doing -autoconfig to completely reset my TF2 settings.

Looking at the gotfrag link, I’ve just tried redoing the WMI stuff, I’ll have to see if it’s made any difference this evening. I did have some problems recently with hard drive corruption (which I mainly noticed because it broke my Firefox completely, I did a full checkdisk which picked up on some bad partitions). So something like this is possibly a cause.

Failing everything I’m prepared to backup and re-install TF2 and Windows, but I don’t really have time at the moment to do it.

Thanks for the responses so far everyone.


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