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Quoted from Mr. G - String

replace gravelpit with turbine_pro with esl rule set

Either GravelPit or Freight.

Gpit a good map. it’s been playing since S1 and there’s no need of replace it. In Gpit you can see if a team is well coordinate because a mediocre team can still win on a better team who has much DM skill but a bit less teamplay.
And you can even do quad airshotzzz on C.
And it’s the only map that offers a different gameplay style besides 5CP.
And it’s funny.

fuck croissant
keep gp
add turbine with a decent rule set
or add well
WIN

Quoted from TWEEKARN\

TC_HYDRO FOR SEASON 12

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Quoted from Leif

Gpit a good map. it’s been playing since S1 and there’s no need of replace it. In Gpit you can see if a team is well coordinate because a mediocre team can still win on a better team who has much DM skill but a bit less teamplay.
And you can even do quad airshotzzz on C.
And it’s the only map that offers a different gameplay style besides 5CP.
And it’s funny.

Wrong, even teams with bad teamplay can win Gravelpit, it’s easy at a low-mid level to win by just SURPRISING teams with random shit. We won all our Gpit games this season because we just did random things.

Besides that, the point isn’t that people can’t play gravelpit or hate it because they only like DM.

THE POINT IS THAT IT TAKES 1 HOUR 30 MINUTES TO PLAY ONE MAP, GUYS. Nothing less, nothing more. That’s what this entire thread is about. Jesus christ.

Quoted from Enef

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Wrong, even teams with bad teamplay can win Gravelpit, it’s easy at a low-mid level to win by just SURPRISING teams with random shit. We won all our Gpit games this season because we just did random things.

Yes, but this is linked to the fact that most team doesn’t know how to play Gpit. We lost some pcw vs some team that then we won enough easily on standard maps like badlands or gully because they were doing unual things too such 2 engis on A (that is pretty OP).

But if we have knew how to play, whom we should focus, and general coordinations between heavys and scouts I think we would have won.

Quoted from Enef

Besides that, the point isn’t that people can’t play gravelpit or hate it because they only like DM.

That’s the point. And that’s why team in low level div such mine don’t know how to play Gpit, but this is not an issue of the map that is bad, it’s, as you said, a problem that affects the players who doesn’t want to play it.

Quoted from Enef

No. This topic was made because people don’t want to play 1 hour 30 minutes of the same map. The entire point of THIS TOPIC is that the map takes too long, not how people play it, not what people think the map is good for or not. Tapley is mad, as are some others, that it takes up the majority of their evening playing ONE MAP.

Maybe you should READ the original post, or perhaps everyone can keep arguing about semantics.

lold, what u gonna do if they will make it first to 5 caps and maps will take 1+hr?

gravelpit’s fine for next map
but get rid of fucking freight :|