TF2 update: Random damage poll
February 5, 2009
With the last Valve update, there came a few interesting new server variables. The ETF2L config will be updated accordingly. However, for 1 variable, we’d like your opinion. This variable decides whether random damage will be used in the game or not.
If tf_damage_disablespread is activated, the amount of damage every gun can do will be static. By default, this is turned off. This (off) means a weapon’s damage output can randomly vary. This varies by around 10%. When turned on, every single shot fired by the same weapon will do the same amount of damage. (not taking into account random spread). This can make the game more predictable, you’ll know more precisely how much damage you will do.
For comparison, we will list the damage of some of the most common weapons with this variable turned on.
- Sticky: directly under your feet: 114 damage, damage up to around 130 damage, (with ideal placement directly in front of you, damage will decrease fast if you’re standing further away. )
- Pipe: 98-104 damage (direct hit; depends on place of impact.)
- Scattergun: 104 damage (point blank, when fired from further away, damage will decrease)
- Rocket: 112 (point blank, damage will decrease when fired from further away.)
Please vote whether you want this static damage to be enabled or not.
Enable static damage?
Total Voters: 675
Loading ...This poll will run until Sunday 23:59 PM, after which will be decided whether we turn it on or off and the config will be updated.
Note: other variables that will be added at that same time are: mp_tournament_allow_non_admin_restart 0 and tf_tournament_hide_domination_icons 1.
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“Sticky: directly inder your feet: 114 damage”
DO WANT :D
what about the scout with static damage, he will still need to get just front of the medic to kill him faster , or damages will be fixed then he can make same damages from far away?
I think we can trust valve that the cvar is inplemented correctly. The only issue is possibly the sniper rifle being able to bodyshot a medic(previously 50% chance on it).
Also the sticky damage is indeed a bit weird. A sticky right under your feet does less damage(114) then right next to you(130ish). And if the demo stands directly next to the victim sticky damage can go up to 160+ dmg. Almost like the selfdamage of the demo is also added to the targets damage.
@bun
Damage dropoff will stay the same, so most weapons will still do less damage on longer distances. Its just the random damage variation that will be affected.
However, keep in mind that using static damage will also affect some other things. The first being predictability. A scout for example will know that he needs 2 point blank shots on a soldier, previously there always was a danger of needing more shots so the scout needed to be more careful.
Second, class balance is also affected, without static damage a class will for example need 3 or 4 shots on a target. If with using static damage that value becomes 3 the class will get a bit stronger.
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Beware! The end of the demoman era is near!
Heil to the new kings! Long live the scouts!
Static damage wins!
I kind of liked the random damage, because it seperated TF2 from other FPS and made it a little unpredictable.
Sometimes it made me cry and sometimes it saved my ass ;-)
and what about adding tf_tournament_classlimit_X variables to config?
Why is this even a vote? the cvar was put in the patch only for the competitive community, it wasn’t put in for the random pub player who spends half his TF2 time standing behind his sentry gun.
And for those who have actually played with it on… you should find out it makes absolutely sod all difference with it on or off.. as its only 10%.. :D
The 10% difference means life or death VERY often. I know the randomness is on both sides and therefore does make sod all difference regarding the end result of the game, BUT it makes those single situations where you’re wronged by the dice, and therefore the whole game experience, much more enjoyable.
“YES!”
just dislike the sniper thingy… imo takes few skill to charge and just aim for the medic’s body, but meh.
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Yes!
Finally I can’t be one naded!
What’s with stickies losing ~40 damage, but rockets staying exactly the same as before? :p
The news is just wrong about sticky damage.
fyi: you can do over 170 damage with 1 sticky if you really want to, but i think that’s a bug. It works nontheless ;)
yes very good now you can see whos got skill and whos got luck
150 damage for a fully charged sniper rifle bodyshot is shit (from the view of a medic)
“I kind of liked the random damage, because it seperated TF2 from other FPS and made it a little unpredictable.
Sometimes it made me cry and sometimes it saved my ass ;-)”
aLx is so right, i agree completely with this opinion.
Why remove domination icons?? :(
because you can see the signs quiet easy and it doesnt change anything different … you can still dominate someone
because you can fu** (< this means funny) see a guy who dominated you from about 50miles (against wind) and even see him if hes behind something (a dolphin) that hides his whole body!
and also it lets you see how poor you are and that your opponent lied as it said “yes we are low+”
:P
hm that obvious fact I forgot about :). So you can still see the icons when tabbing?
Pipe bomb and sticky is the same thing.
So, pipe/sticky *and* (gre)nades.
And before someone comes to counter me, http://www.steampowered.com/status/tf2/tf2_stats.php.
– Grenade launcher
– Pipe bomb launcher
sure, you see it when tabbing
Keep the way it is! why change something that worked before? I would say let only div 1-3 vote it now even a pubber who’s registered on etf2l can vote and that just sucks…
i guess fragga made 200+ accounts to vote against random damage :|
Yes, I’m quite sure Fragga would vote against this “demonerf”.
Ah never mind, read wrong. :D
Tumpel –> epic fail