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OUI SHUD BEEE DIF 2 EFEN THO I TIKD DIV 4 BOX INNIT, WE WUN ROUND V DIV 1 TEAM. ADMINS R STOOPID MORONS AND GUD LUK TO DEM IN 4B AS WE WILL ROFL STOMP YOU ASS…ALL OF U.

ADMINS STOOPID MORONS, HATE ALL ADMINS, DEY STOOPID AND MORONIC.

WE DA BEST IN DA WURLD.

Happy now?

We applied for div2 which seemed pretty perfect seeing as we have two players with div1 exp and three players with div2 exp. Anyways noone could be arsed getting screenshots and stuff since we don’t play too much.

Conclusion is that we don’t mind proving ourselves in div3 and the tables seems fine.

Quoted from Fishy

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No, if they can’t, they’ve wasted a great opportunity another team would have leaped at the chance of, and a whole season of tf2 for that team.

Same could probably be said for any other team in division 3 that folds. If they make it to the end of the season then they’ve one upped all those.

Quoted from Toasty

4c is shit, half the teams there could play div 3 and have probably asked to play higher than 4 and have had no oposition, no real change from previous seasons tho.

My team was in div4, but when we heard another Finnish team from div3 was about to drop we immidiately asked the admins if we could get their spot. And so we are in div3 nowadays.

No you are just div5 team

Quoted from Toasty

4c is shit, half the teams there could play div 3 and have probably asked to play higher than 4 and have had no oposition, no real change from previous seasons tho.

You should get your facts straight. You had 3 games so far.
You lost to Poorly Raised a newly formed team, who asked for div4 and provided screenshots against div4 teams. Without these screenshots they might have ended in div5.
You lost to clanda a well established team, who asked for div4. And once you have a look at their S11 achievements you will understand why. 2 maps won 10 lost in div3, its fair to say that when they are asking to be div4, that we will place them in div4.
You lost to Les Gunslingers, who asked for div4. They got promotion from div5 in S11, putting them in div3, could be considered quite a stretch.
I cannot find any really outstanding team (no offense :]) in your div, so maybe the real issue, unable to stand up to the challenge, is you :o!…

Quoted from Sketch

People often underestimate the skill it takes just to be div 4. Div 4 is a good standard for an established team to get to, it shows an ability for good communication, solid death match and consistent gameplay/ gamesense.

If a team is not strong in one of these aspects then they will struggle in division 4.
Every division takes that basic gameplay knowledge from division 4 and strives to perfect it which is why they are better. Winning Div 4 still remains a really big milestone of achievement for any Newish or established team imo.

I was saying that to myself every time starting my div5 ending div1. “This is the division thats starts to play serious and requires a lot of gamesense to climb out”. And then you look back and realize that you were just bad.

http://etf2l.org/teams/14223/ Dropping in div4C

Coz just realised that we’re not ready to commit div4, we need first to know eachother and get solid base to keep going. Dropping not means folding, ofc :D So cu next season