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ozfortess hasnt been 8v8 for a while now.
the 2nd stage 2nd point is the worst bit of map design i have seen for ages

how do u get that net graph? http://www.ozfortress.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10850&d=1246184719

the tf2 one is different

U tried net graph 1,2,3,4?

no, all i have is this: http://etf2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/hl2-2008-11-16-21-17-30-58.png

thats nothing close to as smooth it is on the other screen

its also smaller overall

OZFortress was mainly 8v8 until VERY recently, trust me, I know alot of TF2 players in Australia. The only reason they have fell back to 6v6 is 1) because their community is dying (etf2l is absolutely thriving in comparison) and 2) because someone woke up one morning and realised 8v8 is awful.

Their really bad, I played an 8v8 mix about a year ago with 360 ping and top fragged, considering their was meant to be a couple of pretty good players there (their equivelant of div3-4) it was pretty bad.

lol, just no.

and also, div3-4 pretty good?!?!??! lol.

piece of boring shit

this map is so “PRO”!!11:D

its nearly the same map, just cosmetic changes, still, its shit. hihi