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How to improve my DM as Demo?

Created 2nd February 2012 @ 15:12

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atomic-

-chess-

806 days ago

PLAY PUB 24/7 AND DM OFCOURSE
HF

doks

Gutta

806 days ago

deffo full pubservers on spam maps like dustbowl :D

WOODY[

AUTOBOTS
ᵔ.ᵔ

806 days ago

put up stickytraps. easy game

Old_Grandma

OGizzle

806 days ago

Quoted from WOODY[

put up stickytraps. easy game

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What’s so bad in wanted.gov?
No one forces you to use shit like huntsman or direct hit there. No one forces you to just hold mid and wait for fresh spawns to come. It’s a good place for a demoman to train his pipe aim, though it may be very frustrating, especially when there are 2 good scouts in the opposite team.

xiuxiu

pzggpz

806 days ago

Quoted from hospitch

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Alright, I’m gonna keep an eye out for that, though I can’t agree with the jumping part, Scouts and Sollies can still ‘stop’ moving in mid-air and again, everything I can do is guessing in that moment. Or am I wrong?

uhm you mean airstrafing i assume. and yeah, ofc every class can do that. ok, gonna stay on scouts here: if the scout isnt accelerated by some explosive, the airstrafing he can do while jumping is fairly small compared to the instant dodging he can do on foot. in conclusion hes much easier to hit when he jumps (when he jumps at all). but thats common knowledge, focus on my other tip instead.

edit:
also, when you are thinking of scouts/sollis rocketjumping or rocketsurfing etc with acceleration, think of it in an mathematical way. the sorter the distance your nade has to travel, the more likely it won’t be dodged due to airstrafing.

only exception is when the solly/scout was just catapulted/rocketjumped since most ppl begin airstrafing while falling down afaik so you could try to go for the nade-hit before they reach their peak with the jump (since its unlikely they are already airstrafing while ascending).


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baerbel

trick17
trick17

806 days ago

just play about 1500 pickups and you are fine

Genmix

TC
TC.Azis

806 days ago

Deathmatch and pubs,
Best way by far

numlocked

AUTOBOTS

806 days ago

personally, I improved it by sitting on a dm map (eg gran mid) with a couple of friends. they switch to sol and scout and I can only pipe them. it was good practice.

atmo

806 days ago

Use charge ‘n targe so you’re forced to shoot pipes.

Setlet

OS!
HC

806 days ago

1. thousands of hours practicing in dm/ammomod servers
2. ????
3. PROFIT

Snyyppis

RLM

806 days ago

Deathmatch servers.

Pipes are simple prediction of movement. If a scout is focusing on killing you, he is not focusing on dodging (unless he’s shocky) so this is when you use normal prediction (ie. scout jumps sideways from badlands train -> most likely he’ll doublejump back the same way).

But when a scout is focusing on dodging, his movement is not predictable and all that goes out of the window. This is also the reason it can feel more difficult to pipe scouts from lower divisions because they tend to take more head-on and erratic/unintelligent paths. Best you can do then is spam and hope, or use a sticky to mess up their movement.

n00ne

806 days ago

I feel that this video should be explanatory enough.

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hospitch

806 days ago

Quoted from xiuxiu

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uhm you mean airstrafing i assume. and yeah, ofc every class can do that. ok, gonna stay on scouts here: if the scout isnt accelerated by some explosive, the airstrafing he can do while jumping is fairly small compared to the instant dodging he can do on foot. in conclusion hes much easier to hit when he jumps (when he jumps at all). but thats common knowledge, focus on my other tip instead.

edit:
also, when you are thinking of scouts/sollis rocketjumping or rocketsurfing etc with acceleration, think of it in an mathematical way. the sorter the distance your nade has to travel, the more likely it won’t be dodged due to airstrafing.

only exception is when the solly/scout was just catapulted/rocketjumped since most ppl begin airstrafing while falling down afaik so you could try to go for the nade-hit before they reach their peak with the jump (since its unlikely they are already airstrafing while ascending).

No, I don’t mean airstrafing. For example they stand on a train @ badlands middle.
They do Ctrl => Space => A/D => D/A.
If you jump to the right/left, you can ‘stop’ moving by pressing the other strafe key which lets you fall down straight.
That’s what I meant. How can I be 100% sure that I hit them without being lucky?

dauk

806 days ago

dm or mge. the hardest hit to hit with pipes is heavy spinning his gun

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