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20-30s setup time, engineers won’t be able to build a level 3 sentry which will promote more fast pushing and dynamic defenses.

I’ll expand my previous point.

B is too easy to defend. Even if you get wiped, your respawners get their in time to block long enough for the rest of the spawners to get there. Cutting the cap time helps that but i think that B needs redesigning.

I approve this idea, hope it gets done. All suggestion till now seem good!

I think you should not discourage playing engineer on this map, although I agree we should make snipers less viable than they are now because they can be really boring much more than engineers. This happens because snipers can snipe staying far back without being really forward, unless red has some players overextending to avoid that.
To improve this I think that the wall on short is a nice idea, but we should also make B a bit smaller so snipers have to come closer. Not sure though about this last point.

Another change that could be done is to open the room which brings to B right balcony (from blue prospective) from A passing through C (2nd entrance if you watch from C left to right) to remove another sticky trap point and may be – it depends on how it is done, I cant really say if it would be useful – encourage some kind of agressive plays from sollys.

What about opening a bit as well the roof of the house on B?

you might wanna add some open-close doors instead of just open doors (i mean the doors that open like in badlands lobby).
maybe in the corridors between B and C or something, just a thought.
gravelpit best map EU

Drastic suggestions:
Lock B until A is capped.
maybe increase timelimit
play one round AB instead of Bo3 or count gravelpit as two maps (2 rounds or Bo3).

AB stopwatch:
more points capped ->normal win ->3 points
same number of points capped ->golden cap win ->2 points for the winning team, 1 point for the opponents

By choosing to defend A you risk not getting up your defence (+sentry) on B in time if A gets capped.

Tell me what you think.
Please don´t rage.
Thank you.

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Putting stickies in places where they cannot be seen isn’t fun for anyone who isn’t the demo laying them. It’s not like a hiding spot where you can check it and it’s fine as only an explosive class can check for those stickies. It also forces you to be inventive with your sticky traps rather than just laying cheap ones

Why don’t we make cp_badlands_pro, cp_gully_pro, cp_snake_pro, etc etc… There are plenty of hiden trap spots on those maps and they just co exist with the map metagame. You answered your own question yourself with
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[…]Remember that hiding spots give character to a map and should be removed only if they’re very imbalanced

Sticky traps are not imbalaced, they are one of the cores of demoman play. And every class can check for them, even scouts, they have a scatter which can take stickies out from traps at an even faster rate than other classes, even on hidden spots. Medics are not so good for this but you shouldn’t be walking alone as medic through a possible trap spot anyway. I really can’t get over this, sticky traps are essential to tf2 metagame, and hidden spots , whether they are for players or stickies are essential to a map character, remove most of them and you have cp_whateveryouwantbutgravelpit and not gravelpit

Having a medium health pack on one of A>C connectors and one of B>C connectors would probably be a good idea, as you said it would make holding flanks easier when defending and also pushing last easier when attacking.

Was also thinking about having the bottom bottom entrance to C from A extended all the way to the point tower and extend the ramp from the tower to the A>C right connector as well to cover that zone and make it sort of a bigger bridge with a tunnel below but I don’t think if it would really be practical for another kind of pushes

I hated gravel pit the first time; why anybody would want to make stalemating an objective is beyond me. Your probably working hard on this etc. but this map in 6v6 is just… eww. I was happy when i thought I’d seen the last of it.

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That’s my idea.

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