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I’d like to throw all the alternatives and improvements we can think of for golden caps in here. Ideally we can put all our input in over the weekend, so that I can make this thread public on Sunday and everyone can provide input on it from there. If we can come to an agreed change to golden caps by the start of the playoffs we might as well try it out during said playoffs.

So:

Current golden cap: timelimit 10, winlimit 1. If no winner at the time limit, team holding mid wins.

Pros
+ Guarantees a winner
+ Takes 10 minutes max

Cons
– In practice, teams might as well hold for 10 minutes after capping mid
– Not wildly popular among the community as a result

The following proposals are in no particular order.

Alternative #1: timelimit 0, winlimit 1

Pros
+ Guarantees a winner

Cons
– Has the potential to take a very long time
– As such, it may become a war of attrition (first team to concede loses)
– Subsequently, it kind of gives more westerly teams an advantage. Some Russian teams play at 1am as it is, so they are more likely to need to go to bed sooner than, say, a UK-based team.

Alternative #2: timelimit 5 or 10, winlimit 1. If no winner at the time limit, reset and go again.

Pros
+ Guarantees a winner
+ Ensures that the winning team actually defeats the losing team

Cons
– Has the potential to take a very long time (see above)

Alternative #3: Re-introduce draws. Giving each team 1 point.

Pros
+ No extra time needed
+ No extra rules needed

Cons
– No draws in play-offs possible

All of this is of course based on what I can think of at the moment. If you have anything to add to these please say so, and please mention any other ideas you come up with!

What was the reason to establish golden caps in league matches in the first place? Maybe we should start from that point!

Quoted from Crasp

My next challenge is to find the point where golden caps became part of the season, which I think was between seasons 6 and 7…

Turns out the first season to have golden caps was everyone’s favourite, AFS. The admin thread discussing it is http://etf2l.org/forum/adminold/topic-10219here[/url], and the public announcement is http://etf2l.org/2010/05/28/summer-2010-season-announcementhere[/url].

Quoted from d2m

Points System
The Summer League gives us an ideal opportunity to test out the new points system for maps. To give you a brief recap on the discussions we had previously in IRC, no maps will be allowed to end in a draw. In the event of a drawn map there will be a golden cap period. The points allocation per map will be as follows:

Map Win – 3 pts
GC Win – 2 pts
GC Loss – 1 pt (same as the standard draw)
Map Loss – 0 pts

In the event of a 1-1 draw on Gravelpit, the team which captured all of the points in the fastest time will get the option to go attack or defence first in the third round. For example if Team A capture ABC in 4:17 but Team B capture ABC in 3:59, then Team B will get to choose for the third round.

The whole point of the new system is to encourage more attacking play and to make the game more exciting as a spectacle. I’m very excited to see it in action and DeNeusbeer has already implemented the code which I’ve stealth activated in the last few MNM cups.

Quoted from CanFo

What was the reason to establish golden caps in league matches in the first place? Maybe we should start from that point!

It was an idea of D2M, to always have a winner after a map. It was first introduced with AFS, http://etf2l.org/2010/05/28/summer-2010-season-announcement/ .

Iirc, it was generally liked, it creates more tension/excitement, etc.

Edit: Crasp beat me to it about 22 hours ago, never mind me.

Time limit 0, done.

maybe teams should stop assholing and stop camping after mid was capped so Alternative #1 or Alternative #2

For the regular season #3
For the playoffs #1
gg

I like the draws idea