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Should have an ‘open’ ladder division 7 (or whatever bottom will be), basically consisting of play 9 games (or however many games teams in other divisions play, i forget ;D) against any of the teams, though only 1 time per team and leave it at that. It’s basically the waiting list but also gets those teams some ETF2L experience.

There would be a big skill gap for some teams and some unpleasant games, but it’s better than being left out of the league entirely, it’s also good for gauging new teams skill levels.

It’ll also show who actually is determined enough to be in the league by activity and deserves to be here, rather than foldiing/dropping due to some bad results.

I see, I guess that is a fair way of doing it :) I’m sure I would be annoyed if a new team got preference over me if my team had season experience. Fair enough

At least the increase in capacity means the waiting list is much shorter.

Yeah a ladder would certainly be the best way

I was thinking about this one too. I’m sure there must be an easy way to add up more teams. Only real problems could be placing the teams in the right divisions as has been discussed, but you could either a) increase the amount of admins as the league grows, some are assigned to keep track of the new clans and checking out their scores (which has been encouraged to keep track of your pcw:s when entering the league) or b) implement that ladder system which has been talked about earlier too. (Allows waiting list teams to play pcw:s and add up the results and etf2l league games could easily be ladder games too and report there at the same), this would allow relatively good way to indicate how strong a team is which less work from the admins, only some admins assigned to admin the ladder.

I was also wondering what’s the structure gonna be like this year, so far I see like it’s 330 teams verified and 401 have been registered as of now.

Also I’m personally still against having direct relegation and promotion at least in div1 and maybe between div2/3. Implementing a playoff system would ensure that the best teams possible stay in div1 and not have an ok div2 team go in div1 one just because of a weakish division and get raped while the team relegated will rape their division and ultimately would be the better team than the one above. Thinking about it, this offseason has taken what? about 2 months. You could get through with a playoff system as a continuation for the league like in few weeks, there would’ve been still plenty of time for an offseason.

But about structure?

-> 330 teams?

Div1: 10
Div2: 10-10
Div3: 10-10-10-10
Div4: 11-11-11-11-11-11
Div5: 12-12-12-12-12-12-12-12
Div6: 12-12-12-12-12-12-12-12

-> 370 teams? (maybe too much, aye for only 30 teams in waiting list then atm.)

Div1: 10
Div2: 10-10
Div3: 10-10-10-10
Div4: 10-10-10-10-10-10
Div5: 10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10
Div6: 10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10
Div7: 10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10

Here are btw. a few old threads of ladders on this forum
http://etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-54/?recent=351
http://etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-568/?recent=24330
http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4760/

I’d be very grateful if you could check again :)

Doesnt ED do an entry ladder for CSS? A way to show that your actually going to commit and play? That way it filters out clans that will fold.

I signed my clan up and I’m not to sure if we will get in but I would love to, we have been practising in mix’s alot but it would be a shame to wait till next season to play some competitive TF2, having said that I wouldn’t mind joining a ladder if I miss out, that way we can practise for next season and get used to commiting to weekly times etc.

why not just add ladders

6on6, 3on3,2on2,1on1

maybe sniper 1on1, soldier 1on1?

just a idea because i see this often in some other leagues

People have necrophilia or something?