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Koeitje

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Make me an AI that passes the Turing Test and is indistinguishable from a human.

thx

octochris

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Quoted from Daniel

Can you explain the main differences between the “link state” and the “distance vector” algorithms?

in what way? there’s a fuckton to talk about. main difference is link state has all network STA routes visible, distance vector only has immediate neighbor STA routes visible

octochris

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Quoted from Koeitje

Make me an AI that passes the Turing Test and is indistinguishable from a human.

thx

turing test is not a measure of AI capability or legitimacy, that’s a common misconception, many computers able to pass the turing test have existed for many years.

edit: to clarify, most ai specialists agree that the reason a fully indistinguishable ai is possible is because there is no part of human intelligence so complex that it cannot be modelled accurately by a machine and programming. most people agree that the only real way to measure sentience is through the output, but that’s kind of a problem.


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Koeitje

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Quoted from octochris

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turing test is not a measure of AI capability or legitimacy, that’s a common misconception, many computers able to pass the turing test have existed for many years.

I agree it only tests a certain part of what could be considered intelligence.But if its easy to pass, then why did none claim the Loebner price yet (maybe the $100000 reward isn’t high enough (also for visual etc. Its ony $25000 for text only afaik). See 2009 winner: http://www.worldsbestchatbot.com/Main_Page. Guess its time to make some easy money Chris.


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octochris

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Quoted from Koeitje

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I agree it only tests a certain part of what could be considered intelligence.But if its easy to pass, then why did none claim the Loebner price yet (maybe the $100000 reward isn’t high enough). See 2009 winner: http://www.worldsbestchatbot.com/Main_Page.

i said only if it could be done in one question ;)

well, the turing test is contentious. there are a lot of flaws and different methods in executing the testing, and of course, the loebner prize it is human gauged if i am not incorrect, which adds a whole level of issues.

besides, measurement of output is not really a good measurement of intelligence, just a good measure of testing what has the best turing-resistant programming. not to mention it is all interpreted.

edit: http://www.salon.com/technology/feature/2003/02/26/loebner_part_onethis[/url] is a very good article, most people knowledgeable about artificial intelligence really don’t like the loebner prize because it isn’t really a measure of artificial intelligence, it’s a matter of cause-related programming.


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Koeitje

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Quoted from octochris

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i said only if it could be done in one question ;)

well, the turing test is contentious. there are a lot of flaws and different methods in executing the testing, and of course, it is human gauged if i am not incorrect, which adds a whole level of issues.

besides, measurement of output is not really a good measurement of intelligence, just a good measure of testing what has the best turing-resistant programming.

Yet, a chat bot is still AI. And you were still wrong about lots of bots being able to pass the test. I expected more from an AI expert :(.

And don’t link me some random article, just makes you look like a fool. I know all about the issues with the turing test. Read some journal articles about it a while ago.


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octochris

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Quoted from Koeitje

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Yet, a chat bot is still AI. And you were still wrong about lots of bots being able to pass the test. I expected more from an AI expert :(.

you’re incorrect, it is not ai. it is pseudo-ai. if you truly think that the turing test is a viable measure of artifical intelligence then you must be off your rocker.

and the turing test has been recorded as passed, but as i say, it’s contentious because it is human judged.

read the link i put in the last post, it will explain why it’s nonsense.

that’s 3/1 questions, next please.


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Koeitje

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Quoted from octochris

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you’re incorrect, it is not ai. it is pseudo-ai. if you truly think that the turing test is a viable measure of artifical intelligence then you must be off your rocker.

and the turing test has been recorded as passed, but as i say, it’s contentious because it is human judged.

that’s 3/1 questions, next please.

Its part of what encompasses AI. Getting an AI to do the same as the human brain is insanely complex, and we wont see that happen for decades to come.

Please link me to the log from the bot that passed the test, and by that I don’t mean fooled x% of the judges. But it being indistinguishable.


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octochris

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look it up yourself, it’s only a google away.

i can’t be arsed answering questions for people who won’t accept answers (not least if they think the turing test is a viable measure of artificial intelligence)

you’ve had 400% of the number of answers i allocated for you, next please.

The Well was supposed to be a (series of) thread(s) meant to help lower-skilled players out. Jh’s initiative was awesome (as was Darn’s) and people are taking it too far.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying DON’T help people with their computer problems – but if you are to use the name “The Well”, don’t use it to argue with a random guy from Holland. That’s quite easily achievable over PM’s on IRC or steam.

/rant

Koeitje

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Quoted from octochris

look it up yourself, it’s only a google away.

i can’t be arsed answering questions for people who won’t accept answers (not least if they think the turing test is a viable measure of artificial intelligence)

you’ve had 400% of the number of answers i allocated for you, next please.

No bot has ever been indistinguishable from a human, looks like easy money for you Chris.

Its not a viable measure of intelligence. Do you consider a robot that does not bump into walls intelligent? Probably not. But it is just another aspect that could be considered intelligence. Intelligence is more than the sum of its parts, but it needs its parts ;)

octochris

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Quoted from Shintaz

The Well was supposed to be a (series of) thread(s) meant to help lower-skilled players out. Jh’s initiative was awesome (as was Darn’s) and people are taking it too far.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying DON’T help people with their computer problems – but if you are to use the name “The Well”, don’t use it to argue with a random guy from Holland. That’s quite easily achievable over PM’s on IRC or steam.

/rant

it’s the exact reason i said one question per person. on your advice i will ignore all further posts from him.

thanks bro, i know you’ve got my back.

reactioN

help me coding a menu for external apps that run in 3d apps in c++ @ ring0 kernelmode :<

if thats in your category aswell


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octochris

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Quoted from reactioN

help me coding a menu for external apps that run in 3d apps in c++ @ ring0 kernelmode :<

Quoted from octochris

Would rather not answer programming questions as they actually might require me to think.

Matt

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Teach me how to get laid

OH WAIT…..

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