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Quoted from _Ben

Hi all, it’ll be unlikely that we will allow players who are competing in div5 or above in AFS this season to play in the highlander cup

I reckon this is a poor decision. The highlander tournament was even made with the purpose of getting newer players interested in competitive play, and I know people who became interested just because of this tournament, and who I “recruited” (pub friends).

Due to the increased interest for competitive because of the highlander, they’re obviously also interested in participating in the AFS, but this just forces players to choose between AFS or highlander, and is most definitely counter-productive to your original goal.

The question from here on is whether the highlander tournament should be about the spirit of fun/TF2 and introduction of pubbers to a competitive setting in a friendly and familiar way – OR if it should rule out all of those for the people that are probably most committed just so you can prevent 1 out of 20 players making a difference in a match, if even (and even so, I can assure you that if there are players good enough to make a difference in a 9v9, then the AFS isn’t really responsible for that in any way).

If people not familiar with the competitive scene weren’t already discouraged by the extended lengths of zero information and lack of updates, they most certainly will be if they’re being punished for the admins’ lack of time to organize it earlier.

I don’t really know the whole situation but at a guess it seems to affect quite a few people and their teams. This probably should have been mentioned when the AFS season was announced. It seems unfair to those who spent so long preparing for the event :(

Good that you’ve seem to have changed your mind regarding the AFS div 5 players.

But now when it’s on the topic, quite frankly there seems to be very little interest in the tournament from the admins. I may be wrong, but no updates, no information, and the fact that the tournament never starts despite being way past the original date points this way.

If you dont have time, let someone else do it. Many admins have spent lots of time put teams together, getting this thing shouldn’t be very difficult compared to that.

It should basicly be (correct me if I missed anything):

1) Initiate a signup
2) Randomly sort them into groups
3) Make the groups and the play-offs visible on the page
4) Make rules for the highlander
5) Make a config for highlander

1-3 should be relatively to easy to copy from the normal etf2l signups I hope.
4 can be built with some modifications from current rules
5 You can ask the teams for configs, we have configs for example, or just slightly modificate the etf2l.org

We would also then need to generate more attention via TF2 Blog, because I think most pubbers forgot by now.

Quoted from Skyride

Nathanson is right about the admin part. If there is no admins involved in the running, I could think of a couple of people who’d be up for organising it. Ashkan for example has been organising PCW’s via Steam groups for months. Hes pretty much the sole organiser of the current highlander community. I’m sure he would jump at the opportunity to get involved. ;)

It’s great to see that people in the community are interested in this competition people like Ashkan for example and i’d be more than happy to listen to what he has to say about how it should be run e.t.c

Edit: After discussions today it seems we will allow players who had no competitive experience before AFS/div6 players, sorry for the mini heart attack!

i think its not optimal to anounce something, let people organize teams and invest time and then let them wait until they start loosin interest
to get things startet faster just involve dedicatet people like ashkan more…

also if the highlander challenge will not happen a big part of the public community
will hate etf2l, that would be the exact oposite of the initial intention of the hlchallenge, which was to close the gap between public and league…

if the community could contribute more to the organisation of the highlander challenge and a highlander ladder/league it would give the whole thing a great boost
because there are a lot of people who really want to make this happen

Quoted from Hildreth

As for running the tournament – well if you give Ashkan the tools he could probably run a highlander league on your behalf permantly, let alone organise a cup tournament. Only steam group leader who took his time to give me a bollocking for forfeiting a match and not being serious. That is admin dedication, sign this guy up if you need an extra. Think the clan leaders from the Community Challenge will appreciate it.

If he wants to apply, we’ll certainly consider it :) I’m always looking for fresh meat :D

So the players who have been only signed up to a div 5 team before don’t get to play but those actively playing competitive games in AFS are allowed to play. :/