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Max damage of the pickaxe is 162 so I doubt you can oneshot a demo

lmao with 1 hp he moves faster than a scout so it should be banned…
HE HAS 1 HP for the love of god…

Basically, you say it’s fine that the soldier is as powerful as he is, because to compensate for that scouts now have to wait for someone else to take their attention, come in greater number or be “ingenious.” This is not balance. If scout was to be immensely powerful against the soldier, I could not justify that by saying “now soldier will have to think a bit, and maybe work together to take him out!”

Apparently I phrased badly, I’ll attempt to rectify; Until now scouts could pull off incredibly stupid stuff, and get away after having eaten 1 rocket. With the TDH they can not afford to do so, it’s either a suicide mission or a failed attempt at one unless they have backing by the rest of their team/a second scout. I don’t see the problem with this. Scouts may still succeed by running in one at a time and trying to gank the medic, but if they are caught red-handed, their chance of retreat is ~0 (that of course was the case before as well unless the soldier/s choked, but even more so now). Taking out the enemy medic is a huge advantage, there should be huge risk involved.

I’m not saying the soldier should be a hard counter, and he isn’t. There still are enough factors involved giving the scout(s) a fighting chance, the biggest ones being undetected approach and agility. As I said, I won’t be using it unless on pubs so personally I don’t care if they nerf the damage on it, but then there’d be no reason whatsoever to use it over the normal RL. Imo.

Imo the speed isn’t a problem, but the damage is.

A melee doesn’t do fire damage, nor blast damage. Think about it.

We tried the buff banner in a pcw tonight and found out that it is completely overpowered. I think it is the first weapon to be banned unless it will be nerfed.

Also, random air-crits from TDH (due to jumping etc.) were very annoying in the pcw.

As a result, we decided not to use these weapons in the 2nd map. They are just making the game very random with their current form.

Buff banner is just obscene for pushing last on lets say granary. Two soldiers plus the demo spamming with no fall off makes it so easy to kill the other team. It’s annoying not having a shotgun, but it isn’t really the end of the world, 14 seconds of minicrits which you can use to push instead of an uber is pretty useful.

And getting oneshot by the TDH when you fall off something or when you’re on the ground is just stupid. Atleast both of these weapons speed up the match, you dont need an uber to push with the banner now which is quite nice.

We tried the buff banner in a pcw tonight and found out that it is completely overpowered. I think it is the first weapon to be banned unless it will be nerfed.

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ban banner, ban boots, DH limit 1.