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Quoted from N/A

I don’t mean easily bypassable ones like ESL Aequitas or X-Ray.

Aequitas no longer exists as you know. Not sure why you’re mentioning it.
As it has been said, it’s now Wire Anti Cheat. All the known cheats have been detected so far.
http://www.esl.eu/eu/wire/news/141319/
http://www.esl.eu/eu/wire/news/140576/

Find me a single cheat that currently bypasses it.

As someone said in that thread, ACs mostly prevents people from cheating, because they’re afraid of getting caught, so it’s mostly normal that the number of people caught is lower than the number of people that want to cheat or cheated before the AC started to be used. However, there will always be some stupid ones that believe their cheat is not detected and will never be and end up getting banned.

Quoted from N/A

I don’t think anyone in particular cheat but I know how tempting it can be to cheat when you know that the game your playing will fund your team to go to the next LAN or not. Luckily for me I’m too talented at tf2 to need to cheat (or you’re all to shit TROLOLOL)

I’m not asking any of these changes to affect divisions that don’t have a prize.. this is just for Prem + Div1 (at the moment). Also if you can’t afford the £8/season it costs to play in a league, get a job! Most MGO’s will cover the entry costs for teams anyway, so it isn’t too much of a worry.

A few of you are underestimating how good some of the AC actually are. Even private cheats that claim they can bypass *insert AC here* usually can’t.

You do? Please elaborate.

Like I said, it’s not just 8 pounds a season and despite if people have a job or not, if I feel like paying a fee on a regular basis, I’ll go play WoW or EVE. Also assuminig every mgo will pay entry fees or that every team even has a mgo is doubtful.

And like most say, private cheats that you will have to pay for are pretty much always a lot harder to detect, if at all. (As they usually only circulate in a certain circle and I’m not even talking about the commercial ones).

Quoted from quad

merge etf2l with esl then? I mean, if the esl site got more simple, organized, better forums (with community move..) etc. It would be alot more attractive then.

Since thats what the etf2l site has, a massive GOOD community forum, and simple to navigate in, unlike esl.

Critisize me now..

Never gonna happen..

adding costs is a big no-no.

Quoted from konr

I sincerely doubt that Chris could code anything that great. I’m sure he knows a little bit about the subject and can code okay but he isn’t the best coder in the fucking world and I really doubt it’s his specialty.

I don’t think he was being serious, but yes.

I know fuck all about this area. Heuristics I can do, but this is somewhat more complex.

Quoted from N/A

You can’t bypass ESEA AC with any available TF2 Private hacks at the moment, and if they claim they can. Try it and enjoy your ban :p.

That’s simply not true. There will always be hacks that can exist outside of the detectable range of the anti-cheat client. Just make it unsure of its environment and you’ve already won, you just have to use more sophisticated techniques. If you know how to code, you can code your own program running in kernel-mode to change the environment to mask the cheat. All anti-cheats at a base level rely on the operating system not lying to them. Kernel-mode programs to change OS output to suit their needs can supplement cheats in such a way that the cheats would be highly unlikely to be detected even by a highly sophisticated anti-cheat solution.

just make it so you have to record an irl video of you playing the match along with a pov demo

Quoted from octochris

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I don’t think he was being serious, but yes.

I know fuck all about this area. Heuristics I can do, but this is somewhat more complex.

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That’s simply not true. There will always be hacks that can exist outside of the detectable range of the anti-cheat client. Just make it unsure of its environment and you’ve already won, you just have to use more sophisticated techniques. If you know how to code, you can code your own program running in kernel-mode to change the environment to mask the cheat. All anti-cheats at a base level rely on the operating system not lying to them. Kernel-mode programs to change OS output to suit their needs can supplement cheats in such a way that the cheats would be highly unlikely to be detected even by a highly sophisticated anti-cheat solution.

It is true, pm me a link to a tf2 cheat that bypasses ESEA AC. I don’t care about it being possible, the fact is it’s not available to basically anyone in tf2 at the moment.