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Quoted from AcidReniX

I think the other thing to realise, is that the GRU will only really have an effect at getting a heavy to middle, making him more viable for initial rollouts. Sure, it means he can get into position faster, but this time difference is very minimal, and in a lot of situations, teams would wait for all 6 players to be around each other before they push. If the heavy dies, the GRU is only going to speed up the push because he will be back in position faster than a regular heavy. In other words, the GRU is going to have almost no effect on the rest of the match other than slightly faster push timings, or having a defending player in position 2-5 seconds faster, asuming they are defending far.

Which leads me to assume the players who do not want the GRU to be allowed, are more complaining about the fact that they don’t want a heavy to be useful on midfights, and just want to keep running two soldiers as the only realistic heavy combo pack for that battle. That is wrong on so many levels… banning an unlock that potentially makes a class viable when currently, it is not (In midfights on certain maps). They could also be complaining about ‘an unlock being allowed in general’, which is fine, but it’s a different argument alltogether.

+100000000000000

Quoted from Matt

Who wants heavies to be viable? Fucking boring class played by players who aren’t good (Hi Nick <3)

Fuck you, heavy requires alot of skill. Aiming when you’re practically a stationary target is very hard! And don’t get me started on the movement skills you need, man it’s just so complex.

did someone say vanilla?

I think with the whole heavy GRU thing in relation to speed of the game it’s less about the speed the heavy gets to mid and more about the class changes required to deal with a heavy.

A team is usually fairly unlikely to stick with the standard classes if the other team is running a heavy. So what swaps? I guess normally a scout swaps out for a sniper or a heavy themselves (maybe a spy if it’s not the midfight?).

The emphasis here is on a scout swapping out… fastest class in game, class most likely to back cap/flank ect. Surely running 2 less scouts in an average game will slow the game down a fair bit? If not, it will surely negatively effect the whole dynamic of backcapping.

Currently it’s not really a big deal cause it only happens on a few maps…but I think allowing the GRU would significantly increase the numbers of heavies run; therefore a big decrease in med/dem/sc/sc/sol/sol rollouts.

btw, I don’t really care about gru or not, just thought I’d point the above out and bait someone into flaming me.

oh and viaduct would be cool.

Quoted from Wabbeh

PLease don’t allow GRU + New steak sandvich. Faster than scout scout speed to mid isnt cool. ANd about the GRU: HEavy is tank. He is slow yet powerful, and tough. Now he is fast. Now he is fast and powerful and tough. What downsides are there?

The netcode.

imo its funny how many people demand unlocks that do something special, which then get banned however.

like TDH: people demanded a rocketlauncher that was more skill oriented with higher risks on the one hand and higher rewards on the other hand. and now it is banned.

people were waiting for those GRU for so long: why? a weapon that would make the heavy viable again. he would lose hp for being faster. also less damage on hit, so he cant just go crazy and fist everyone to death like a madman (hi, equalizer pre-nerf). and now people want to see it banned, except for those who would so love to run a heavy and not the standard 2 scouts/2 soldiers/ 1 demo/ 1 medic line up.

Just allow this weapon, its really not that hard to deal with a heavy. Did focus-firing really become a lost art?

edit: the STEAK + GRU combo however seems a bit too strong for my taste though… a heavy that is as fast as a scout on gran mid with full hp spinning up and then ripping through at least one scout if not 2… nah, thats too much for my taste tbh.

Quoted from archy

people were waiting for those GRU for so long: why? a weapon that would make the heavy viable again. he would lose hp for being faster. also less damage on hit, so he cant just go crazy and fist everyone to death like a madman

When the community asked for the Gru in the first place,the heavy wasnt as buffed as it is now i think. (minigun spread,damage,rev speed,…)

Leon said a long time ago when the gru first came out that it was op when compbined with the previous buff of reduced spin up/down time and that previous to that spin time buff it would have been much more balanced