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Quoted from 2nuts

In my experience people who hate it, does so because it’s one of few maps you can’t win by pure DM skill.

No, people who hate it, hate it because most of the time it’s just really god damn boring and slow. Regardless of that, I think it should be in the map pool, but shouldn’t be featured as much as it is currently. 1-2 times a season would be enough.

Quoted from WildEast

Can be a good map, but not for 3 times/season no..
you don’t really find a lot of willing teams on irc to play it

If you can find someone on irc that would like to play gravelpit contact me. One night I contacted 3 teams and when they saw gravelpit they quitted from the server.

But here everyone likes it. I’m starting to think that I’m unluky in finding teams on irc.

of cource yes

Option 2 sounds pretty neat, but it’s hard to find maps that are good enough to play. I have to say it’s easy to find a opponent to play gpit compared to some seasons ago. This is a good thing (well, it’s not a good thing to practice gpit) if you want to practice that week’s league maps.

By the way, do we really want to end up playing just granalands all day long, other maps are needed as well to keep the competitive scene interesting

Quoted from archy

you can also put 2 heavies on badlands last. but also on obscure for example. running 2 heavies is just massive turtling and will rarely lead to a recap. you can put 2 300 hp dps tanks on almost every map and make it a turtle fest. map makers can do sthg about that to a limited extend only.

agreed. You can turtle on every map but I don’t know if its just my sense that gullys last is so heavy to attack against 2 heavys. Maybe because there are so many spots for a heavy to stand, so that he can not be picked as an enitial pick. And the new tunnel on the left side did not realy make an impact on making the last one easier to cap. On the other side maybe we all play gully to less.

Quoted from Cobby

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If you draw you have to play a golden cap, meaning another round of A/D :( + the first map I guess can make an official last 2 hours (Including toilet breaks etc..)

I did not considered that but that would make something about one hour. Not two. Of course the time also depends on how the server is administrated and how many breakes there are.

Quoted from S19

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If you can find someone on irc that would like to play gravelpit contact me. One night I contacted 3 teams and when they saw gravelpit they quitted from the server.

But here everyone likes it. I’m starting to think that I’m unluky in finding teams on irc.

Try to search directly for gravelpit on irc and do not surprise a mixteam on your server with that map. Play only one round of gpit (15 mins) and let your opponent choose the second. Make an appointment and do not search spontaneously. Train gpit in the weeks when gpit is played and you should be able to find an opponent.

Quoted from Shabbaman

Option 2 sounds pretty neat, but it’s hard to find maps that are good enough to play. I have to say it’s easy to find a opponent to play gpit compared to some seasons ago. This is a good thing (well, it’s not a good thing to practice gpit) if you want to practice that week’s league maps.

well I guess you’re right about that but I do think it would be possible to find 3 maps that are good enough.
Also do not forget that the most important thing about a map is that it is actually played. I do remember when badlands was new no team wanted to play it against us, they all said: forget badlands, that map sucks and it’s not for 6on6 … now every team plays it and most players love badlands.

I also think there are a lot of maps which haven’t been really tested by the 6on6 community.
Just one example: CTF-map contest (http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Competitive_CTF_Contest). I haven’t played one of these maps and I do think most of us haven’t even heard about them. Maybe we should give ctf another try with a One-Day-Cup.