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Rate hacks
Created 13th December 2011 @ 23:05
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Quoted from SiTeHBu0mbb
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Alright then any “Open-source-plugin-that-checks-the-rates-like-dblocker”.
It should be fairly easy for a premdivcomputertechnician such as Chris to make something that detect changes in interp and rates and so on.
In the future, we’ll probably play on “Chris TF2 match config” aswell.
Quoted from Ghostface
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That’s exactly what a rate hacker would say
how did you know?
Are you one?
Quoted from vani
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In the future, we’ll probably play on “Chris TF2 match config sponsored by vier-clan.de” aswell.
Quoted from vani
It should be fairly easy for a premdivcomputertechnician such as Chris to make something that detect changes in interp and rates and so on.
Been there, done that; as sourcemod plugin. I’ll paste the source when i get home from work. In it’s current state it reports people changing their rate to everyone who has the permission to change the map.
Quoted from octochris
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DBlocker is a closed-source piece of shit, and I’ll be damned before I let it on any match server I run.
Yea right, making an open source Anti-Cheat plugin and letting all cheaters know how the hacks are being detected and how to bypass the detection. That would be a very good idea.
DBlocker can detect some hacks that no other plugin can detect yet, and the hack coders have not found out yet how some of these detections work.
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Quoted from GibbZ
CHRIS VS ANAKIN BATTLE OF THE NERDS
about a billion arguments too late!
Quoted from AnAkkk
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Yea right, making an open source Anti-Cheat plugin and letting all cheaters know how the hacks are being detected and how to bypass the detection. That would be a very good idea.
DBlocker can detect some hacks that no other plugin can detect yet, and the hack coders have not found out yet how some of these detections work.
This is the most fucking retarded argument I’ve ever heard. If your detection is not robust enough to stand by itself then you should just keep your shit-tier security by obscurity to yourself.
Quoted from octochris
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This is the most fucking retarded argument I’ve ever heard. If your detection is not robust enough to stand by itself then you should just keep your shit-tier security by obscurity to yourself.
It looks like you have no idea of the limitations the server side plugins have when it’s about detecting cheats. It’s better than nothing, at least it detects more cheaters than the ETF2L AC staff and will keep doing so as long as the cheat coders don’t know how it works.
EDIT: BTW, go whine at Valve for VAC not being open source.
Last edited by AnAkkk,
Come on, guise. Valve has finally taking the initiative to catch up on all the medal business, so for every second we have to spend moderating the forums, we lose a second of medal discussion. Medals > everything else.
Point is, please stay on topic and be polite. Thanks! :)
Comedy gold thread..
It’s amazing how many people don’t actually know what rate hacking is .. It’s been around since forever though, even in tfc..
As for changing interp, please .. any half-decent soldier uses the lowest interp for the rocket launcher and a higher one for the shotgun. This has nothing to do with misplacing your hitbox so you’re harder to hit and hardly makes a major impact. As for hitting around walls, sure, it happens at times but not as much as you think.. but move to any country with shitty internet/location and you get the same effect (Russia, Israel, Spain used to be worse, etc.)
I sincerely hope this doesn’t mean you get a ban for just changing your rate ingame though .. As I sometimes change to a different rate for different servers, depending where it is etc.
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Quoted from AnAkkk
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It looks like you have no idea of the limitations the server side plugins have when it’s about detecting cheats. It’s better than nothing, at least it detects more cheaters than the ETF2L AC staff and will keep doing so as long as the cheat coders don’t know how it works.
EDIT: BTW, go whine at Valve for VAC not being open source.
“It’s better than nothing”, no, it’s even worse, we’ve got a plugin which gives a completely false sense of security and connects to an external server of its own will to distribute information pertaining to the clients connected…
The new Bert & Ernie?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8tq0sR4WBc
Needs valve to fix, doubt will happen, server side plugins can only do so much before they eat your server.. anti-cheat vs cheat is always going to be cat & mouse, cheat probably will always be on leading edge & anti-cheats trailing.
Open source would help purely on basis as there would be more interest in fixing such issues (why would valve do that? they are still making money :D)
Valve would rather give you shiny hats than have dev’s spend a lot of time looking into the rates issue.
I bet its one of those things where they look at the code tut & walk away thinking maybe when we have more time…
How long did it take to get signed client side plugins.. which sound more useful than they actually appear to be…
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