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Someone here mentoined sometyhing about poeople that are talented not really knowing how good they are, this is is very true When Norrla joined 8U he said he was only div6 and had been playing in low teams, We also had a scout andyscareCROw who had recently stared comp with us, Both of these guys have imense talent and aim, But because they wanted to stay with the team and progress they didnt leave.

It was only after we folded he though “Im better than this” Not in a bad way, and tryed for the higher divs…

Don’t know any division 5 players that could play above division 3 to be honest.

I seen a lot of beast aim scouts Div 4/5/6 who do really dumb things cos they are too impatient or won’t play for the team….etc

In LTG, Crashsite + Pikachu are good deathmatchers, probably could out aim higher div players but they do the most retarded things like go spy when they got advantage and pushing in or rushing without being aware of what the situation is.

I remember one game a Div 1 demoman was mixing vs us and I had a better game than him overall (granted scenerios exist) but I guess general skill difference isn’t massively big, all gamesense + teamwork but you could pick a lot of players from 4/5/6 and move them to 2/1 probably.

Quoted from Matt

Been saying this for quite a while tbh.

+1 agree with Ryan, elitism is what keeps the divs at what they are.

“WOW YOU IZ N00B U ONLI PLAY DIV 3/4/5/6 U NO GUD, GET GUD N3WB”

rofl you actually think that? there is still only x amount of spots in the divisions so there could be 1000prem skilled players there is still only a certain amount of spots;

Quoted from randa

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rofl you actually think that? there is still only x amount of spots in the divisions so there could be 1000prem skilled players there is still only a certain amount of spots;

Your right in the fact that there are very limited spaces, however i can almost guarantee that that spot will be given to a so called “proven” player no chance for anyone else.

Hi.

The skill level in my opinion, is warped, a large amount…

My team is searching for a scout/sniper, and we are contacted by people that don’t have nearly enough experience, nor the attitude to play at a higher level, granted, we are only div4, but the lower skilled people that join a team for 20 days, leave, then look for a better team normally have a poor attitude.

In the 2 days we’ve been looking, I’ve had one guy from div 6 that has actually talked to me and given me a reason to trial him, so when we get the time, we shall.

You also get the circle jerks, I fucking hate these, there’s many players that aren’t as good as people make them out to be, in rec. posts they just spam their FL saying “Write something about me…” This then means that you get people going “Good, cool guy, div x for sure etc.”

Now, I used to play scout, to a good level (div3? lolol) and I then switched to demoman, and again I can play demoman to a good level (div3? lolol) and I’ve only played it for over a month. But what also helps is my team and we base what happens around each players strengths etc.

Now clan hopping only works if people have the right contacts, I don’t really know many people, so not many people can vouch for my scout/demoman skills, it also means that I don’t really play any higher skilled games, just with my team really.

Those that have good contacts with better players and get invited to play these games will improve at a quicker rate, or they will just fail altogether and can just enjoy the game in their respective divs.

Basically, to get to a higher div, go around bum licking everyone you meet so they say nice things about you.

So, if you’re in a higher div and want nice things said about you, add me. I’ll oblige.

Quoted from M24_

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And what is wrong with that? Why would I as a captain pick soemone unproven over someone with experience if they have around the same level of skill aim/movement wise. You can do well in tf2 without amazing aim, whats more important is being able to understand situtations and react. For example, imo what sperates the prem demos from everyone else isn’t pipe or sticky aim, it the ability to know when to go agressive or when to stay back and set traps. sure, you need aim and the ability ot hit pipes, but what is more impotant is being able to understand the game as it goes on.

That comes with experience and playing with your team. You just need to be given a chance to achieve that.