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How about updating the whitelist or should we just grab it from whitelist.tf?

Hi, sorry for not responding in a while, but I’ll try to chew my way through the comments as I get updated on what happened the past few weeks in HL.

I’m not against a new map or anything. I enjoyed Ramjam in UGC for example and I think that new maps can be really fun and inject some variation into the seasons.

However, it seems to me that if the map maker himself is warning that the map isn’t ready for a proper season then that should have decided it. It’s not too late to make the necessary changes now but the longer its left the worse it gets either way. A definitive statement by the admins needs to be made, either for keeping the map or changing it, beyond which there should be no further discussion.

Quoted from .zero

It would be nice to have a final answer soon about reservoir.

Considering the first matches on Reservoir will be played about a week from now, the admins clearly are taking their time (or just sitting it out). My hope is growing slim :(

Quoted from irfx

Let’s just play anything less awful instead and pretend we have played reservoir

in b4 warnings for demos not corresponding to the map that had to be played

Cmon it was a joke (or was it?)

I would personally get my interest rekindled in highlander if the wrangler was banned. But from my understanding only a minority would prefer a less stagnant and structured meta? I think having more options for flanking, attacking and holding is fun. Besides, certain classes feel completely useless untill the sentry goes down. Generally a bit more of a vanilla balance based hl would be awesome imo.

Inb4 angry comments about zero seasons etf2l hl played – im not demanding anything here, people, im just sharing my opinion.

Quoted from Tomu

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It’s been tried before, banning the wrangler made points to easy to push in payload, and as much as it’s more fun for some classes, it makes the general game a bit more boring, less co-ordination needed (direct hit yolo).

I dug up this old gem http://etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-24829/page-1/
Its feed back on an experimental cup without the wrangler. Most people seemed to enjoy it a lot, and for some points in payload it was still suffeciently difficult to push and take them, apparently. For the most part it would be faster paced, but maybe it wouldnt be as bad as you (generally speaking) would think. And as i mentioned, im biased in the way that i support a more fast paced game.

I agree that the DH would be a problem, but maybe the answer to that could be a whitelist ban. Idk, maybe it isnt even needed, or there are more elegant solutions, such as only banning it for payload offence (if that could be done).