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Created 5th August 2013 @ 23:08

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Popcorp

Quoted from repu

played hundreds of lobbies and centers, never experienced any problems. are some people just stupid?

and if i will experience any problems in future, like an admin closing a lobby, i will just “k” on it, because im usually pubbing or playing Jump map while waiting and Tf2C is basically a Pub with class limits, so im not losing anything…People should just ignore and not make any drama over a “Pub”

AND if you want to play with your friends, go ahead, there’s a pub, no difference, TC likes to stack lobbies since Tf2lobby era and they all ended up in rolls so i don’t see how fun it is to play and enjoy rolls? might just make your own FUN mix on Spreadsheet or just stack a pub or even make your own Pub server


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Kaneco

Quoted from b33p

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Of course I did, you dummy, otherwise I could not have said the script and the narrative over it are unrelated. Sensationalist shite typed over a transcript to try and enrage the noob reading it because the script does not serve your purpose by itself.

You have so little faith in your own bullshit that you have to scribble your hilarious annotations over the screenshot to try and get the passive reader on your side:

Nobody ‘loses their shit’ (dumb americanism), screenshot does not show that TF2C was restarted to reset stats but you assert that anyway, site admin makes the point it’s his site so you can suck a cock or deal with it, concyy gets butthurt at this sentiment and insults the admin personally (something the admin did not do before this nor in return), kleap is on some kind of good behaviour trial, which is not highlighted, and kleap does not pursue this any further as he is seemingly aware of why he was banned and mentioned it just to troll, everyone is still on admin’s dick for closing his lobby which happens all the time, then the admin asserts (the way Kaneco did at the top with ‘restarted tf2center so his stats/reports wouldn’t be affected’) those he is talking to are school children and exits.

tl;dr lobby leader closes lobby, people get on his dick because he is an admin, guy on good behaviour trial tries to troll admin, users upset: 1 (concyyy), and essentially nothing has happened.

To the contrary of your aim, the screenshot shows how some players on that site are self-serving and the admins don’t take the bait, so it is unclear why you threw that screenshot into the mix. Nobody is saying that MT closing lobbies (which I assume MT did not lead) is okay or a good thing.

edit: father/further typo

Ok, I understand you may be completely misjudging the situation (to not say worse) but I’m gonna break it down for you.

1- HL Lobby starts
2- MasterNoob is playing medic on the opposite team (LOBBY IS NON MUMBLE) and MN is not the lobby creator.
3- We pretty much roll them the first round
4- MN calls his team stupid and ragequits the server
5- MN proceeds to close the server (everyone disconnected, he ruined the lobby for 17 other people)
6- Get back to TF2Center, try to refresh the lobby page, it’s not opening
7- Refresh to tf2center mainpage, chat is not connecting and there are no lobbies open
8- 5 mins or so it comes back and masternoob gives some bullshit excuse to the effect that the site was lagging or something similar and he had to restart the server, which is clearly not true given the fact he ragequited said lobby mid round and closed the server.
9- He gets called out by most users that were playing the lobby as you can see (or as you cant see in this case)
10- Complains his team was shit and there was no one on mumble (ON A NON MUMBLE LOBBY) which he also gets called out for
11- Starts going on a tirade on how hes the admin and he can do as he pleases, basically laughing in his userbase faces.
12- Everyone just understands how hes a fuckin giant baby with a god complex
13- 1 user (which was playing said lobby) gets visibly upset and calls him a fuckin retard deservedly
14- MN continues his tirade while “waving the admin card”
15- This went on for like 20-30 mins, progressively going full retard until he just started losing his shit, it’s a pretty reasonable expression when you consider his remarks were getting progressively more desperate. Thats not the whole transcript, for some reason I didnt copy the whole 20 mins tirade but the main part is there.

I’m speaking from experience since I was playing the lobby and as you can clearly see by reading the transcript there are multiple users calling him out. I’m not just making this shit up

Also:
02:38:15 boxcars: dont feel safe and comfortable on this website right now and thats not good

Exactly what you should aim not to do if you want to be a contributing member to this community, or any community for that matter.

I’m not gonna debate this issue anymore, I just wanted to add my experience with tf2center abuse of power by the admins, which was not a singular one, and I did it already.

Casino

I’m friends with both MN and MT and a former moderator on TF2C as well as being in charge of the feedback forums. I resigned back in July/August for various unrelated reasons but I still cannot support MT & MN here. Much as I like you guys, you can’t do this to people and I think it’s wrong how some TF2C admins treat the community but especially how they treat TC members who I’ve only ever had a positive experience of. I’ve never known a TC person to break the rules of the site nor have I known them to intentionally troll around on the site forums. Some of them are even site members and yet they get treated with contempt because they’re not willing to take this kind of crap.

I’m sorry MT & MN but you guys need to put your site over your temptations to do what you want because you have the power. You guys did this because you wanna make a contribution to the community so make it a worthwhile one.

CHERRY

The fact that they are colonslashes doesn’t matter at all R.E.M.

Casino

Quoted from CHERRY

The fact that they are colonslashes doesn’t matter at all R.E.M.

What I’m trying to say is that yes, there are total idiots in the community who try and ruin it for everyone else and then try and troll the admins by claiming abuse. The TC people have never been in trouble and they are active and contribute to the site forums as members so the fact that we return their loyalty and their efforts with this kind of straight up admin abuse is just rude frankly.

That’s not to say other people don’t contribute either but as a group my experience of TC players has been that they are always friendly, help other players out and in a lot of cases have contributed to the forums and feedback processes as members


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b33p

(ETF2L Donator)
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Quoted from Kaneco

I’m not gonna debate this issue anymore

aura

now it became clear to me that b33p is in the pasterino business. There is no way he could have afforded these expensive new cars and samsung phones otherwise

Munky

.Qc`
COGU

Quoted from Casino

I resigned back in July/August for various unrelated reasons

I didn’t know you had left REM :(. You always had a positive effect on things for what it is worth.

I mainly play american lobbies these days due to time constraints and never see these issues come up over there. But maybe I am just seeing things through rose tinted glasses.

Quoted from kKaltUu

Ive been advocating for a stricter ban procedure, and I’ve had some data to back my story up. The problem lies in the fact that some bans don’t get documented and doesn’t go through a peer review procedure.

If you were stronger with the bans it would be great if you had an automatic page showing when they happen, why, how long and who enforced them. If it is feasible of course.

For those of you involved in the project and aren’t batshit insane (kkalttu, foxy and formerly REM) thanks for putting your time in and try to understand peoples frustrations aren’t aimed at you.

Quoted from Munky

If you were stronger with the bans it would be great if you had an automatic page showing when they happen, why, how long and who enforced them. If it is feasible of course.

The player profile page will list active bans, who placed it, and link to forums which usually (unless its a very short ban) should have a ban post there.

We’re working on more automated bans and cooldown periods at the moment for players that quit / don’t join mumble (first stage should go out in the next few days). Trouble is, the approach we take (and it’s partly my fault since I’m the one driving this train of thought) is that the player-base should self-moderate where possible, and we’re a little lenient to encourage people to realize a mistake and correct it. I would say this does happen in the majority of cases, but it turns out this just isn’t possible everywhere and so we need to build the automated tools to catch it early and, as you say, be stronger with some of the punishments.

Quoted from Munky

For those of you involved in the project and aren’t batshit insane (kkalttu, foxy and formerly REM) thanks for putting your time in and try to understand peoples frustrations aren’t aimed at you.

I think “passionate” rather than “insane” is probably the better word. None of the admin team have a vendetta and we want what’s best for the players (however much you may argue the other way). Unfortunately this does come out in fun and exciting ways sometimes.

Pete_

PrettyGay

Quoted from aura

now it became clear to me that b33p is in the pasterino business. There is no way he could have afforded these expensive new cars and samsung phones otherwise

karlkox

dead right Now ??

Bloodis

(Legend)
{503}
Tissi

Hopefully dead for good

smziii

(Legendary Ratehacks)
Ascent

got banned from 3 lobbies yesterday, i just want to play videogames :(

CHERRY

rc is down for me aswell :(

Oxy

TC.Express

Seems to be up for me.

Also for what its worth I just saw Masternoob welcoming a new player and referring him to the FAQ. Nice to see a good attitude. :)

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