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ETF2L Statement on Player Conduct and Spooky Thursday Bans

Date October 6, 2022

ETF2L Statement on Player Conduct

ETF2L takes player conduct very seriously. In a growing process since 2018 (and 2020) we have started taking action in regard to the behaviour of our members. Recent community bans and events have moved us to publish a new statement regarding player conduct and player behaviour in our community.

By taking actions on player behaviour, we want to provide an environment in which everyone can feel comfortable and safe no matter who they are. While players might have the right to say and do what they see fit, it is also within our right to not tolerate unacceptable behaviour by people playing in this league.

Any form of harassment, discrimination, racism, doxxing or severe toxicity has no place in our league and our community. We expect everyone to treat other members with respect. Anyone overstepping the boundaries will be punished with league bans depending on the severity of the offence(s). Punishments can vary from verbal warnings, week/month/year bans up to a total expulsion from the league.

We also do not condone any form of mob mentality, witch-hunting, or taking part in spreading rumours that could severely impact another player negatively. If you have concerns about another player you should not publicly accuse them. Instead you are expected to report it directly to the admin team so they can deal with it (read further below if you are not sure how to do that).

Players should feel safe when reporting player misconduct, without having to fear any repercussions for reporting. We want to ensure the privacy of reporters and show that reports will have meaningful consequences. When it comes to punishments, we do not provide the offenders with any critical evidence in order to ensure the anonymity and safety of the reporter. However, we have to make clear that we cannot act if there is no evidence of the misconduct. Opinions are subjective and we cannot rely on them to punish someone.

As no case is the same, when discussing community cases ETF2L will look at the available evidence and put it in the context of the particular situation (e.g. ages of the people involved, offender’s previous behaviour and punishments) to reach a well-rounded case decision. We will not punish based on only hearsay or assumptions and will only ban if a majority of the staff members agree with the discussed outcome.

How to report misconduct

If you did not know about our policy and/or if you wish to report someone’s behavior or misconduct you should do so by contacting us on our Discord by creating a League Admin request with the following information:

  • ETF2L Profile of the player(s) you are reporting
  • evidence you gathered of their misconduct (screenshots/videos/audio recording/POV or STV demos/log files) in which we can verify identity and the whole context

If you are not sure of the relevance of your evidence, you should still come forward with it and we will tell you whether it is enough or if we need additional proof.

ETF2L staff will continue to improve how they will approach these cases in a timely manner in the future. If you have any questions on reporting or feedback on how we can further improve this process, please do contact our staff.


Following the above, we would like to mention the following two incidents:

It has come to our attention that the player UnitedKingdom Cyanic has shown unacceptable behaviour at the recent i69, which has resulted in him being removed from the event and consequently being banned from attending future Insomnias. We have concluded that this affair has to be addressed by ETF2L as well to show that we do not tolerate such misbehaviour in our community either. Since the incident, the involved parties have spoken with each other and with us. After looking at what happened and taking every statement into account, the result of our discussion is a six month ban for UnitedKingdom Cyanic.

Furthermore in a grouped incident, the following players have shown either gross despicable behaviour or pushed for further harassment of other community members. As some already had previous reports and punishments due their conduct we have decided to take further action. We would like to repeat that mob mentality and witch-hunts have no place here.
The players were banned for the specified ban lengths:

  • Poland fraftti – Player Misconduct – Permanent
  • Finland rae – Inappropriate Behavior – Permanent
  • France Igov Драгови – Harassment – One Year
  • Romania Mong – Harassment – Six Months

Bans

PLEASE NOTE THAT MOST OF THESE BANS WERE ENACTED BEFORE THE RELEASE OF THIS NEWSPOST!

Previous Ban Post – 31st May 2022

Anti-Cheat

The following players have been caught cheating by the Anti-Cheat team and were banned for two years unless otherwise specified:

Ban Evasion

The following players supported the ban evasion of a permanently banned player (Scotland snarpii / Poland gekk) and were banned for three months:

The following players evaded their Cheating/VAC bans and have received a permanent ban:

Account Sharing/Multi-Accounting

The following player was caught using a different player’s account to play in a lower divison Highlander Season 26 match. They received a ban for six months for multi-accounting.

They were supported by the following player, who received a three month ban for account sharing:

VAC Bans

The following players have been caught with VAC bans possibly affecting TF2 and have been banned from the league for two years, or two years after their original ban:

+ 34 inactive ETF2L accounts. Total: 36

As these players have not been caught cheating by our staff potential match results are not affected. Some of the VACs may have been detected on alternate Steam/ETF2L accounts.

If you were banned due to a VAC ban on your Steam account that does not affect Team Fortress 2, or would like to appeal your permanent VAC league ban, please contact our Anti-Cheat staff and clarify the situation in order to get the ETF2L ban removed.

Demo Bans

The following player failed to provide a requested demo more than once:

  • Kazakhstan qdrama – Failure to provide 2 demo requests – Two Weeks
  • Switzerland Syncrove – Failure to provide 2 demo requests – Two Weeks
  • Russia FERRARI.PEEK – Failure to provide 2 demo requests – Two Weeks
  • Russia dolboeb – Failure to provide 2 demo requests – Two Weeks
  • European khamba – Failure to provide 2 demo requests – Two Weeks
  • Portugal wildpiggie – Failure to provide 2 demo requests – Two Weeks
  • Russia ZOOM – Failure to provide 4 demo requests  – One Year
  • Poland lit – Failure to provide 2 demo requests – Two Weeks

League Bans

The following players were banned for the specified reasons and ban lengths:

  • England lew – Harassment – Three Months
  • Germany Oldschool – Racism – One Week
  • Norway aryanne – Racism – One Week
  • Poland Kordian – Racism – One Week
  • Russia T1mmy – Severe racism/Toxicity – Two Months
  • Greece Xi – Toxicity – Two Weeks
  • Lithuania ReseF – Harassment – Two Weeks
  • Hungary Rapy – Racism – Two Weeks
  • UnitedKingdom doug – Harassment – Six Weeks
  • Romania rutu – Harassment – Six months
  • Poland jolfok – Racism – One Month
  • International J4 – Racism – Two Weeks
  • Russia Skrills_biker – Racism – Two Weeks
  • Poland Kidou – Inappropriate Weapon/Cosmetic Name – Two Weeks
  • Russia Still – Racism – Two Weeks
  • UnitedKingdom RaTSLaYeR – Racism – Two Weeks
  • UnitedKingdom Cyanic – Attempted Assault during a LAN Event – Six Months
  • Russia smd. – Harassment – One Year
  • Poland desty – Doxxing/Harassment – Two Months
  • Poland fraftti – Player misconduct – Permanent
  • Finland rae – Inappropriate Behavior – Permanent
  • France Igov Драгови – Harassment – One Year
  • Romania Mong – Harassment – Six Months

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46 Comments

  1. Samus: BEER - Dr. med. said:

  2. Rahmed: BURY - 322 said:

    when is rahmedigun getting banned

  3. Sabesaroo: 11/9 said:

    racism – one week

    lol

  4. sunflower: F6 - DBLE said:

    gg

  5. MIKE_TAYSON95RUS: DIRECTOR said:

    when will the entire league be banned for racism and harassment?

  6. fraftti said:

    who is fraftti?

  7. snarpii said:

    so sad rip gekk

  8. eron: ORACLE - WEED said:

    L bozos to all the banned

  9. Mong said:

    I am literally Jesus Christ sacrificed on a cross. Banned for.exposing a pedo. Yet admins decided to ask me for evidence and ban rae 3 whole months after his victims came forward to ME telling me what they experienced.
    Know that I did not commit mob justice at all – I never harassed rae in any way (we were somewhat friendly in rahmixes), I never could have reported Rae myself because I am banned in the etf2l discord and the victims told me they already told the admins what they told me. All I did was make a video calling.him a pedo and showing evidence. It took admins 3+ months to do anything.

    Yet here I am banned. Nobody reported me. Many said the same thing I did. Admins admit.that what I said was true. But I am made an example. An example that you cannot question the incompetence and the monopoly of admins.
    lol

  10. Whip: McV - JaR said:

    shut up mong no-one cares

  11. Mong said:

    whip if I were scottish you’d be crying on your knees rn

  12. master said:

    free mong

  13. ReseF: LIETUVA said:

    No clue how you guys can sit in a discord call and be like: yeah so we wont show any proof of anything about anyone and were just gonna ban people and give them beyond vague statements about that.

    You are beyond delusion, but please continue to push your agenda.

    Still waiting for the league bans for the admins btw.

  14. Haiva: Exp - PC said:

    Yo guys, Mong situation feels a little weird. #freemong

  15. MAGGOT KING said:

    mong nnoob

  16. Big Papa MattJ: GAETARDS said:

    Major admin W, but a few admins Ls too, either way goofy ETF2L moment once again, cant wait for the next episode of the saga lmao

  17. Vlad: pills said:

    #freemong

  18. menex: SKΣDDA said:

    #freemong

  19. rae said:

    holy shit mong calm down u made a youtube video
    take your meds

  20. rae said:

    also just a word of warning before i go, if you can read admins didn’t ban me for being a pedo (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/961948610805792779/1025780686931632169/unknown.png) but for things ive said off the platform a year+ back. this should be an issue for literally anybody that has said anything stupid ever since you can now be punished for regardless of how long ago you’ve said it, possibly punished to the extent that i was. this also means u did nothing for my ban mong get off ur high horse

  21. master said:

    cry

  22. master said:

    https://discord.com/channels/1027153026164740116/1027533189125771264/1027973519264460810

  23. Alabamo said:

    How people are offended by harassment and racism on the internet is beyond me. At the bottom left corner of your monitor is a button, press it and magically you don’t see the supposed harassment.
    And why is Cyanic getting a ban at an in person event not run or controlled by ETF2L. Insomnia banned him, that’s his punishment. If he sparks some cunt out during an offi in person ban him, not if he attempts and misses during an event not even connected to the league.
    Now you’re banning weapon names too??? Isn’t this just going to lead to window lickers def win hunting by checking all weapon names of the opposing team??? Give minor warning to the team and leave as is.
    And I suppose the Mong ban is just because you dislike him, as there are people who have been banned for much less time for much worse “”””harassment”””” (remember turn off screen to prevent cyber bullying!).
    Yeah I know the admins are volunteers and I’m very grateful, I’d just suggest not being utter knobheads about banning people for light banter.

  24. Kaylus: wL. - wL. said:

    I’m going to address your message Alabamo.

    It’s not because this is internet that it means you don’t get affected by what’s happening on it. Therefore it makes perfect sense to deal with harassment and racism online as much as it happens in real life. Yes you could avoid it by not going on internet anymore and you can also avoid it by not going out ever again. Or maybe those having a questionnable behavior could start thinking that their actions and words mean something to others.
    Cyanic is a player of our league and assaulted someone also playing our league so it makes perfect sense that we react as well regardless of where it happened – even though it was in a public place.
    We do take actions against inappropriate weapons and cosmetic names but as you can imagine we don’t straight up ban people we ask them to erase it or not wear them during scrims/officials. If they refuse we take further action.
    I don’t believe I have to say that we don’t ban people because we dislike them do I?

    If you can act with basic respect and manners you won’t ever be contacted by us or at least punished by us. Pretty simple the majority of the league manages to do it.

  25. Sketis said:

    ok i guess this is kinda cool, but look at this insane clip i got – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCyVVYbQOqY

  26. CacTus said:

    I totally understand Alabamo. Like… we’re talking about freedom of speech. Then tell me why I can’t say anything. Who draws the line what is harrasment and what is racist? And yeah, I think there are bigger problems then banning people, because he said kys (for e.g.). Maybe he just meant it as a joke. And if someone really kills himself, then he would do it anyways. Internet is not for everyone. If you can’t take jokes or you’ll be offended then go watch my little pony or Scooby-Doo (but from the 80s and 90s… and I hope you know why…)

  27. Deity: 124 - -Xe- said:

    1984

  28. HbiVnm: pills said:

    -rep

  29. Alabamo said:

    I think we’ll never agree on who should and shouldn’t get banned, but do remember some of the people in this recent post were avid, active members of the community. Many of the people in this list banned for “harassment” and other non cheating/nonce bans have most likely poured 1000s of hours in the game for the official matches in your league. Some going above and beyond, creating their own mix servers which facilitated 100s of organised games with 100s of players, directly contributing to the newer generation of player via mentoring and even creating unique media content to be used in tf2 events. Now most of these banned players will leave your league, in turn losing a whole pool of experience and skill.
    I’m not saying ban no one, I just think some of these recent bans are quite frankly extreme and targeting the wrong individuals. It’s wouldn’t be rash in saying the ETF2L community negatively reacted to your bans and it hasn’t put as admins in the best light. I believe this will be a turning point in the league if these type of bans continue. Again thank you for your work, just don’t be knobs.
    On another note, you need to make admin requests anonymous. It would solve so many problems, stop targeted hate against admins and prevent incidents from happening like it did on 21/10/2021.

  30. Kaylus: wL. - wL. said:

    So your reasoning is – These guys you banned “contributed” enough to be given a pass when they do something wrong? You should only ban people who didn’t “contribute” enough?

    If that’s really what you think yes we will never agree on who should and shouldn’t get banned.

  31. Mong said:

    Alabamo’s point is better said as
    The threshold to ban someone as wholesome as me is not met by the weak ban reason. I am not a random, in which case it could be overlooked. The ban is really to make an example out of me. I don’t know even what example. That you shouldn’t make correct accusations against someone? I guess that’s what it would be.
    If I talk more I will get comment banned so I will refrain.

  32. Kaylus: wL. - wL. said:

    That would be a first.

  33. rulliez: nya - 256 said:

    ur not the main character lil bro, ur a cancerrandom :D

  34. Theseus: Choke - meer) said:

    name one instance in history where mong’s brain wasn’t leaking out of his wee earholes onto the floorboards

  35. Mong said:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D3crqpClPY

  36. Alabamo said:

    Eh, just seems weird you banning people for such long periods of time for communicating outside of your league on mediums you have little or no control or ownership of. I’m sure if you put the same effort into the organisation of the league games itself as you do banning people for communicating, you may see growth like RGL. I don’t expect any of these bans to be overturned, just a different mindset used in future. Again, don’t be knobs, gain respect. (For non Brits, knob means cock)

  37. rae said:

    mong are u unable to read what i sent or are u trolling
    its not like i support the admins abt any of this but u couldve messaged the admins to report me? on discord? on direct messages??
    eitherway if i was deemed a pedo by the admins they wouldnt have banned you, that would be terrible for their already shit PR.
    just use one of ur 9 braincells to look at the situation from the side of the admins instead of seething about a 6 month ban that u know u couldve avoided

  38. Mong said:

    raee ur not worth responding to. if admins did not ban you for being a nonce (player misconduct is the nonce ban reason), they would simply have said so but they are quiet.
    I guess it is a pure coincidence just a few days before your ban kaylus adds me and others and asks for evidence you’re a nonce.

  39. rae said:

    i got banned for inappropriate behavior not player misconduct, clearly you actually cant read lmfao. and again look at the screenshot https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/961948610805792779/1025780686931632169/unknown.png
    the obvious reason the admins banned you is that if they don’t people will point to you not getting punished and continue to witchhunt people in this style which is exactly what they are trying to prevent here, i’m not sure you understand that.

  40. rae said:

    it’s actually incredible you’re so full of yourself and think you’re in the right constantly, you aren’t the savior of this league, you didn’t cause my ban, the only thing you’ve done is get banned again for a fair reason and bitch about it to everyone you know

  41. Mong said:

    huge cope that fails to address the arguments made – why is the ban reason the ban reason used for pedos? why perma? why did admins ask people for evidence you’re a nonce days before the ban? why didn’t admins just say you didn’t get banned for that? (screenshot proves nothing. maybe admins do know you’re not underage. maybe they support underage people that groom others)
    I also never said I caused your ban, though I probably helped.
    go back to ur hole

  42. rae said:

    the ban reason isn’t the ban reason used for pedos? stalkers ban says “Inappropriate behaviour around minors” perma i fail to understand myself. Admins asked u for proof to check if you actually had any, which you don’t. If you did have proof the admins wouldn’t have banned you. The admins also clarified things with me and my id a bit before my ban.

    how hard is it to understand this?

  43. Mong said:

    inappropriate behaviour definitely is the pedo ban reason. if you were racist or something like you claim they would have said it and it wouldn’t be a perma.
    admins did not only ask me for evidence – but also others I know. I said no because the people involved didn’t want to talk anymore and told kaylus to watch my video.
    anyways I am done talking there is nothing to gain from this. admins will shut up like always, people will dislike them even less and it will die down eventually.
    enjoy ur perma. im enjoying my 6 month vacation

  44. rae said:

    I’m sure it’s the pedo ban reason and not the ban reason for yknow, Inappropriate behaviour? and you know firsthand how dumb the admins can be with bans at times, so you really shouldn’t try to say that proves my guilt.

    eitherway anyone that bothers to read this thread will realize you’re once again living up to your reputation of being a schizo idiot, as always. byebye

  45. Biohazard: woofwoof - COGU said:

    “raee ur not worth responding to.”
    He said, proceeding to have a argument not 40 minutes later

  46. one said:

    christ almighty