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Something you might want to look at in regards to the ETF2L forums

Created 28th April 2011 @ 00:18

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FIR

SnG

Quoted from kuma

As ever, the question that should be asked is “why add it?”

What does Charge and Targe bring that makes the game so exciting? Is it fun to see a demo zoom around a corner with the click of a button and one shot a medic? Sure. Is it viable competitively? I’d say no.

It just introduces far too many variables, when there is a subtle metagame in place already through positioning, rollouts and aggression without the uber. Unlocks wreck this and introduce a completely different game. We don’t like it, the Americans do. That’s the extent of it.

Now compare this to Spike’s statement. As a human being, which would you prefer? A short, terse statement saying “get good, they know more” or this, where it’s patiently written out in common courtesy? Its so much easier to understand things when they’re put forward in a manner which is both concise and courteous, rather than saying “they didn’t get there by random, so I suggest you get good and follow”.

FYI this isn’t an unlock discussion thread, I just used it as an example.

Again, if people can’t seem to understand an argument put forth a million times, then as I said above, put them in the “my idea is better than yours, fuck off” category.

I’m taking my time to actually write this because I want EFT2L to grow to be a more civilized place without resorting to bans and nazimoderators, but if the community is still stuck with this mindset, then implementing a TL-style forum moderation is the only way to get people to start respecting each other, voicing out their opinions constructively and generally not make anyone feel like shit under your boot.

Martn

Isn’t the solution simple? Keep the banter out of the more serious forums, and allow it in general off-topic and such. If needed, draw in some people to moderate said forums. There are always enough (good) idiots that want to moderate the forums.

Thats like a small step, but having a serious unlock/map/whatever discussion wil so much easier to have and follow.


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Waebi

‹Con›

damn son, something you said actually made sense.
I’m proud to be a part of IDK now.

also, I have to say it yet again: People only seem to hear “BAN”. That’s not the way to go, and neither is it the way it WILL go. You cannot simply change a community of fatalists and trolls in a huge swift ban wave. Yes, banning certain extreme “elements” may be something that’d do discussions good, but it should really not be necessary. If people get the idea of “being constructive” and “thinking before posting” into their heads, much drama can be avoided.

Mordi

≧◡≦

Quoted from CrashSite

Help others that are not as skilled as you, instead of looking down on them and those who hear them, take their advice without resorting to ‘elitist’ insults.

+1
It really IS like this..

Koeitje

AUTOBOTS

Maybe you can get some pixel admins to nazi along with you on @etf2l is you ask the admins here nicely skyride.

ETf2L would need different admins anyways to make this work.


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Spike Himself

TC

:D

Koeitje

AUTOBOTS

Quoted from Spike Himself

:D

You have no experience in moderating popular boards in a strict manner.

Waebi

‹Con›

Quoted from Koeitje

[…]

You have no experience in moderating popular boards in a strict manner.

inb4ban

Spike Himself

TC

Quoted from Koeitje

[…]

You have no experience in moderating popular boards in a strict manner.

Really? Where have you gathered this knowledge?

Koeitje

AUTOBOTS

Quoted from Spike Himself

[…]

Really? Where have you gathered this knowledge?

Wild guess.

the bm man

k^m

Well he is a noob so its based on some evidence

caned

MEAT
LEGO

derp

IPZIE

SUAVE

it´s all not real. remember.
internetz.

Waebi

‹Con›

regarding a better, more constructive discussion:
how about
http://etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16635/page-1/?recent=299991#post-299979
you post a question like this, and people actually try to stay on topic and not flame for… 2 pages?
anyone think that’s a bad idea? :) No? right, let’s try.


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CommanderX

(ETF2L Donator)
TEZC

I’ll save this sinking ship

CommanderX, the campaign starts here!


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