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actually, i dont like the mid, to open, hardly spots to move for scouts(inner part) once your in lower ground you have to get the whole way back to the outher cycle

beside that, im fine with it atm(havent played it so much yet)

Quoted from doks

No medic alive can like this

I can see how this might be true, but some examples would be helpful! I personally thoroughly enjoyed medicing on this map.

Quoted from doks

way too much hiding spots.
3 windows a.k.a sniper spots at 2nd point on the 2nd floor is crazy. snakewater has one and thats already annoying :D
would like to see the map being more OPEN. its clustered with boxes, pillars, fences… all that shit. I mean yeah leave some of that in so the scouts,spies,snipers or roamers can have their fun but make it easier on the medic :/

Ok, I think maybe removing the right hand side route from second to mid might be a big part of the problem? I’m not sure how much it is used, but I feel like it might be too easy to abuse. Also I agree that there are a lot of hiding spots available, maybe I can do something about that.

Quoted from Ritalin

Map is still great, but I miss the 2nd point being suspended in the air. I’d like to see that make a return.

I’ll gladly add it back in, but the issue is I don’t want to make the area too cluttered. Another issue is that it might move the point even closer to mid, which is definitely not what I want.

Did you play the map as a team?

Quoted from fraac

I liked the old 2nd point too. There is a whole part of 2nd to the right of point pushing out that does nothing, it’s just a dead end.

Yeah, it was planned to be a bit like a trash area, but currently it fills no strategic value besides hiding there. Most likely I’ll remove it altogether.

What do you think about moving the point all the way to the side (to the right of the right side balcony exit, defenders’ perspective)? The point would be extremely far off to the side, so I’m not sure it would work out considering how wide the map is already, but it might solve the problem of too many structures in that area? My personal issue is that it’s impossible to jump as a solly because you’re gonna get stuck with something wherever you are.

If you raise CP2 up again you are taking away part of the defenders advantage, but then you position it very close to a doorway (cover) actually making it easier for defenders to spam from safety?!

Could you make the CP be on top of the crane structure, like Badlands spire? :D

I was thinking… Go back to the floating capture point, but place the crane outside the map…? That way you can be more creative with the area around and underneath the point.