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Weapon Limits And Bans

Created 11th January 2010 @ 18:30

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OK, rate these two situations from 1-10 in terms of difficulty, should be good for a laugh.

Trying to protect your medic from a scout as demoman.
Trying to protect your medic from a scout as TDH soldier.

Abstract scout in vacuum will kill all of them with 100% probability.

WTF r u asking me? If demo is expecting scout, scout has no chance to survive.

klu

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OK, rate these two situations from 1-10 in terms of difficulty, should be good for a laugh.

Trying to protect your medic from a scout as demoman.
Trying to protect your medic from a scout as TDH soldier.

Abstract scout in vacuum will kill all of them with 100% probability.

WTF r u asking me? If demo is expecting scout, scout has no chance to survive.

You’re avoiding the question :) Assume the scout and medic are your own skill level. Scouts by their very definition aren’t ‘expected’. According to your awesome stats demoman would be the obvious choice seeing as he has a much higher DPS no?

You’re avoiding the question :)

I don’t see any question so far.

Scouts by their very definition aren’t ‘expected’. According to your awesome stats demoman would be the obvious choice seeing as he has a much higher DPS no?

If you are not expecting scouts in corresponding situations, u r doing it wrong. Plus, DPS has nothing to do with class roles in a team.
And, yes, it is pretty damn hard to kill skilled scout with tdh. As a scout, I will have higher chances to kill TDH solly, than RL solly in most situations. Anything else?

klu

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So you agree that stats are pretty much useless when arguing about game balance in TF2?

So you agree that stats are pretty much useless when arguing about game balance in TF2?

No. Demo is completely OP as clearly seeing from stats. TDH solly is not.

We must ban the freaking spammer or make a petition to Valve so that demo will have 4 stickies clip with about 100 hp damage each and damage fall off ofc!!!

Pretty obvious.


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klu

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lol, I’m out. You’re either trolling or too stupid to be worth the effort.

Jh

Hey dats!

being able to do 180dmg without any penalty or wait time is not op? gtfo
epic burst damage makes guns imba.

Without any penalty? gtfo have u ever played with tdh?

How about demo btw? One-eyed spammer has no damage fall off and 8 stickies clip, 170 hp damage each.

are you retarded? a dude 10ft away from me jumps and i hit him midair, no selfdmg for me. 180 dmg to him. no movement penalties a la sniper. NO PENALTY.

no wonder you lost the winter war…


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lol, I’m out. You’re either trolling or too stupid to be worth the effort.

It is common case with ppl like you to label anything they can not understand as trolling.

gryzor

It is common case with ppl like you to label anything they can not understand as trolling.

Just ignore him, all this weapon-whine is common and it’s so awesome when nothing is done about it and everyone else just keeps playing. That’s why people like him sucks at playing the game and continues to blame every little change for it.

klu

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It is common case with ppl like you to label anything they can not understand as trolling.

Just ignore him, all this weapon-whine is common and it’s so awesome when nothing is done about it and everyone else just keeps playing. That’s why people like him sucks at playing the game and continues to blame every little change for it.

oh, hey codezor

sup buddy? :D

are you retarded? a dude 10ft away from me jumps and i hit him midair, no selfdmg for me. 180 dmg to him. no movement penalties a la sniper. NO PENALTY.

If he was stupid enough to jump right before ur face when it is a penalty for him. Your penalty with TDH is much lower hit rate. How many rockets out of 1 TDH clip do u actually hit?
It’s funny how no one is willing to answer this simple question.

no wonder you lost the winter war…

Lol? Capturing Karelia was a terrible defeat, ye.

dougiie

CotC

are you retarded? a dude 10ft away from me jumps and i hit him midair, no selfdmg for me. 180 dmg to him. no movement penalties a la sniper. NO PENALTY.

If he was stupid enough to jump right before ur face when it is a penalty for him. Your penalty with TDH is much lower hit rate. How many rockets out of 1 TDH clip do u actually hit?
It’s funny how no one is willing to answer this simple question.

no wonder you lost the winter war…

Lol? Capturing Karelia was a terrible defeat, ye.

I dont understand your point about the lower hit-rate – wouldnt the same go for the normal rocket launcher? Its down to the individual I would have said, and I actually think I hit more with TDH…

no wonder you lost the winter war…

Lol? Capturing Karelia was a terrible defeat, ye.

Only a technical victory.

Finland: 340,000 men fielded
Russia: 425,000 men fielded

Finland:
25,904 dead or missing
43,557 wounded
1,000 captured

Russia:
126,875 dead or missing
264,908 wounded
5,572 captured
3,543 tanks
261–515 aircraft

Not all victories are purely “we gained this much ground”.

ANYWAY BACK ON TOPIC:

Limits are fine. I don’t think any team would run 2 DH anyway.

I dont understand your point about the lower hit-rate – wouldnt the same go for the normal rocket launcher? Its down to the individual I would have said, and I actually think I hit more with TDH…

Well, if u miss TDH shot only a bit, you will deal no damage at all. But if u miss RL shot a bit u can still deal splash damage. For example, RL solly can hit the wall behind target effectively killing him, while this is not the case with TDH.

I’ve played a month or so with TDH and seen some match stats. While u may have an in-game impression that u r completely pwning everyone with TDH, the damage outcome is pretty much the same as with RL (see stats above), its only looking-so-effective kills that make ppl think TDH is OP.

Btw I agree with u that all this is down to individual, not the weapon. Plus, in my opinion, in case of TDH it is even more down to individual than in case of any other weapon.

Only a technical victory.

That differs from Jh statement. Anyway, I think this is not a good place to discuss historical questions and tbh I have no desire to discuss them at all :p

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