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Created 14th June 2009 @ 21:36
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Can you tell me how to plan against this? With a sniper it’s just as simple as not getting in his sights, and erratic behavior when you are. How do I avoid getting stunned mid-air as a solly?
Keep track of enemy scouts, then plan your RJs so that the scouts won’t be troubling you while you’re in the air. You fight enemy scouts mostly in the ground anyway. And if there’s a scout, duck while you’re in the air (makes your hitbox smaller). Also a slightly off scouts aim combined with you aircontrolling to the other direction can cause it to miss.
So how do I do this when I want to clear spire for example. Do I always need 2 people to stand a chance, just to distract the scout? Kinda of the definition of imba isn’t it. How do I protect myself from getting shot off the point when im on it as solly/demo? Moonwalk? Linedance?
Today I was stickyjumping, and just as I launched off the ground a FAN scout shot me from behind. I stopped in midair, completely losing momentum. It’s not knockback, it’s stun.
Anyway, it’s not that annoying as a demoman, but the people saying “lol just adjust ur paly to counter it lol” are simply delusional, you don’t counter hitscan stun with very few disadvantages just like you don’t counter a stickytrap; you can avoid it for a time but in the end you still have to deal with it. In FANs case it’s all about whether people want to play with and against this weapon, which while being a sidegrade and not imbalanced as such (this is debatable) is really really infuriating for most people and manages to apparently suck a fair bit of fun out of the game for some.
Anyway, it’s not that annoying as a demoman, but the people saying “lol just adjust ur paly to counter it lol” are simply delusional, you don’t counter hitscan stun with very few disadvantages just like you don’t counter a stickytrap; you can avoid it for a time but in the end you still have to deal with it. In FANs case it’s all about whether people want to play with and against this weapon, which while being a sidegrade and not imbalanced as such (this is debatable) is really really infuriating for most people and manages to apparently suck a fair bit of fun out of the game for some.
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Someone write a letter to Valve asking them to fix how the “knockback” is coded? It really is quite retarded atm, I think it knocks you up even if you’re hit from straight above…
Why should there even be a poll, are you retarded? If thats the case lets do a poll to ban demomen.
a small price to pay to get rid of you
Wish your miserable joke attempts made sense, and were also consequently funny. :(
After reading this thread I’ve noticed that it appears to just be a small handful of players pushing very zealously to see this unlock banned.
It’s been around a while now, and in it’s current form is a situational, yet viable sidegrade that opens up new playstyles and strategies as scout.
Because you got stumped mid-rjump on badlands spire hardly warrants a ban for an unlock that is far from gamebreaking. That said, I’m sure there’s plenty of people who agree with you on steam forums though. DERP!
uhm, from that what i have read, its only a handful of people defending the scout fan to the bone.
the rest doesnt seem really interested in being stunned.
nobby u missed the object, noone cries because u get shot of the spire. we all cry because the weapon is bugged and stuns instead of pushes.
uhm, from that what i have read, its only a handful of people defending the scout fan to the bone.
the rest doesnt seem really interested in being stunned.nobby u missed the object, noone cries because u get shot of the spire. we all cry because the weapon is bugged and stuns instead of pushes.
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uhm, from that what i have read, its only a handful of people defending the scout fan to the bone.
the rest doesnt seem really interested in being stunned.nobby u missed the object, noone cries because u get shot of the spire. we all cry because the weapon is bugged and stuns instead of pushes.
Well I did. Because it nullifies rocket jumps. Yes, airrocks/pipes do the same but you actually need to have some skill to hit those. It’s just another aspect of the FaN that’s shit.
I’m actually not so much for keeping FaN as it is as I am for keeping the game as it’s given to us. I think Valve should keep other options open for changing FaNs behavior, given that this mass hysteria about it has suddendly become so big.
But it hasn’t affected my game as a solly at all, so I guess I’ve been just playing against shitty teams that can’t take advantage of it. Though, I’ve also played against FaNs in a DM and I don’t think it’s nearly as bad as people make it sound. Yeah, I can believe that it can be very annoying for some people (not my case, I don’t think it’s annoying at all). But again, banning should be considered as the last option and I don’t think FaN is worth it.
I guess if the polls go way higher for banning it than against banning it, I’d be happy with the result even if it doesn’t make any sense logically. Better to listen to the majority and move on. If the game doesn’t satisfy, there’s a lot of other FPSes available.
Edit: Oh and the argument for banning because it’s “bugged”… 1) You can’t be sure whether it’s a bug or not. 2) Even if it is, it doesn’t matter. Quake’s physics engine is great solely because it was originally bugged. They just decided to keep the bugs there and look where it brought the game. Now, FaN necessarily isn’t better for the game (arguable), but it can’t be banned just because it’s a bug.
Someone write a letter to Valve asking them to fix how the “knockback” is coded? It really is quite retarded atm, I think it knocks you up even if you’re hit from straight above…
i can tell you if you get hit from above you get knocked “into the ground” in which you can’t move for a second…
uhm, from that what i have read, its only a handful of people defending the scout fan to the bone.
the rest doesnt seem really interested in being stunned.nobby u missed the object, noone cries because u get shot of the spire. we all cry because the weapon is bugged and stuns instead of pushes.
I don’t think it’s bugged at all mate. The majority of players are just loling at the minority of scouts crying about FAN and them getting owned by it. Instead of whining on forums, spend some times with your team and think how you can combat a FAN scout.. Do you have no initiative?
uhm, joske?
read up again!
the scouts dont whine because WE get owned by it, lol.
Thing is it is fucking easy to own every other class with it and fuck them up.
yeye, i know, ur imba and dont get owned by fan….whatever.
On the other hand josh, idc. we should maybe play a pcw and test it ;)
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