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Due to the fact that valve changed the Unlock system from doing achivements, which every clan can do, to some random retardness i would like to say that all Unlocks should be banned as it is now a random factor for every new clan/player. I am not sure but a player new to TF2 cant even farm for the unlocks of the medic/scout etc. he has to find those aswell. This is not suitable for a competition.

Can’t a new player farm the old weapon unlocks?!?

kritzkrieg :(

yeah and i saw a heavy get milestone 3 and get kgbs. So just disallow sniper/spy weapons.

Banning medic unlocks would really gimp the game.

For the most part no other unlocks are actually used.

Also, I’ve not experienced how the system works yet, but it seems that simply being on a server gets you unlocks; I would imagine that everyone will have everything in a month of continuous reasonably active play.

let unlocks stay, and everything will sort itself out after a while.

Medic, Pyro, Heavy & Scout still have their milestones and can unlock weapons with them. I saw a guy on a public today that received Scout Milestone 2 and got the Sandman. I really doubt that was coincidence.

that was very probably me ;D

New unlockables not allowed, and if u get random old items with diferent specs then no unlocks allowed at all…

Maybe it would be a good idea to handle the new items like the sandman. Forbid it generally, but allow it when both teams agree. If both teams are able to fall back on the weapon, the competition wouldn’t get unfair and they have the posibility to allow it and use it.
I wouldnt forbid weapons which can be unlocked. It’s a interesting tactical component to use crits ore uber for example. And imho competitive TF2 would lose a interesting factor if this is not generally allowed.

+1 for banning all the sniper & spy unlocks, except when both teams agree to use them.