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Wireplay have a great admin team with the best of intentions, but the problem is their main sponsor (web fusion) is absolutely useless. If you look on wireplay.co.uk, the last newspost regarding TF2 is from 2008 talking about ^wotr^.

ETF2L needs new admins, Not because there is anything wrong with the current admins, but a huge number of them are inactive and they just need more people with a “Get Things Done” (TM) attitude.

Please reserve your judgement until the announcements regarding such issues have been made :)

Its a game. ETF2L is too casual to compete with other leagues, if more players signed up to wireplay etc the competitive scene would grow a lot faster.
Still, it is a game and it becomes less and less interesting every day, valve have managed to sustain my interest until recently. This new update breaks the game for me.

lets see if etf2l finally realizes their unlock approach is terrible

Quoted from WARHURYEAH

Never understood a league that has so many players and teams can only manage to offer 6 headsets to div1 winners and not get any decent sponsorship :/

I’m looking forward to Wireplay, and I think more should be done to get people to sign up and play there, considering they are actually offering something for winners instead of a pixel trophy.

Who’s gonna come here if they have better prices? All the awesome div1+ teams that only play in ESL? They have no reason to increase the prices at all costs (keep in mind etf2l doesnt really make any money unlike esl) if there’s no other leagues that can compare. Imo.

i would really like to see the ETF2l admins having a thorough debate on what items we can and can’t use. The natasha for example is a great weapon but its way too powerful, as is the equalizer IMO. I don’t mind ETF2L not having prices though, I just play for fun.

Yes Gibbz, but you got to consider that the minor leagues are trying to catch up with etf2l’s work and explore new fronts so they can atract more teams, by getting more insight and toughts from the top teams and observing the game as it changes. Cheers to ESL with the new anticheat program. I just think that in order to improve our beloved competitive scene I think that there should be 2 rulles sets so both teams should agree on which to use in their following match. This would make the old unlocks story be a story of the past or atleast make it easier to choose. I believe the ETF2L admins know what they are doing and I still believe into the staff. Just listen for about 10% of what the community wants (where are that cool pools you had once) and it should be a better season. I remember 2 and a half years ago when I bought the game, it was so fun to just play even though it was so simple and classes had their few advantages and disadvantages. Updates came. Full pub servers of pyros and heavys that stand still and W+M1, and later on pcws and matches with rocket launchers that shoot at lightning blaze speeds and stun effects from the fastest class in the game. Yes, a migration of weapons and playstile which we never tought it will be transfered to competetive play. Why can’t we have updates such as the Medic update which implemented new ways of playing, which actualy require a little thinking and positioning? Where are those shinny new items that will make the player say: “I love playing with this weapon, if I use my brain corectlly and not just the aim it could bring an advantage and then the victory.” Sorry if this is offtopic but I just wanted to get my toughts and ideas in here (maybe someone from the staff would actualy care at what I typed in here). Also now my concerns:

Scouts throwing with milk at people and killing them with a fish, a heavy that runs faster than a pyro and a sniper being invincible to headshots (actualy support full body shots so people can get better at sniper). Also items sold at 17$ (3 dollars less than the actual game), and a steam wallet which can be used at it’s full potential if your account gets hacked.

Grab a Snickers Valve.

I think as competitive TF2 is growing “commercially” (on a much smaller scale to IRL sports), leagues are going to have to do more to maintain the interest of top teams. Personally, I’m just happy to play in a league where there is a importance on the result rather than playing PCWs day in day out and to gain promotion. But I don’t think it would be very costly to arrange 2 match servers for the winners of Division 1 and 2 with their sponsors Multiplay. With that said, thats probably not what they are after.

Quite simply put a vote up on the unlocks and make some exceptions on reasonable ones like the equaliser and kritzkrieg.

I know some people are complaining about the admin team being unstaffed but if you want to support this league, the best thing you could probably do is make an application to join the admin team.