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Ban Natascha?
Created 15th June 2010 @ 11:44
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Quoted from rAye.
no i dont think banning is the answer, more valve need to fix the slow down effect. it can destroy a team like the direct hit can, but thats been banned…
I don´t think valve would do anything about it in the next months,they are too busy with hats and engy weapons.
Quoted from jgmaster
I have nothing to add to the conversation except this question. Did you just spell enemy n-m-e?
Yeah I did sorry. It is ‘cos I is kool innit.
In my opinion, diversity is what make TF2 so good and enjoyable, so I’m against banning most of the stuff.
But the fact is that Natasha needs tome tweaking.
Last edited by Chux,
YES PLEASE, LETS BAN EVERYTHING, VANILLA ONLY PLEASE, IT’S THE ONLY WAY TO GROW! … LETS PLAY GRANLANDS FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES WITH THE SAME WEAPONS FOREVER! YESSSSS!
.. just no.
Quoted from Chux
In my opinion, diversity is what make TF2 so good and enjoyable, so I’m against banning most of the stuff.
But the fact is that Natasha needs tome tweaking.
Diversity can be a blessing and it can be a curse. The classes in TF2 create a lot of diverse tactics and gameplay as they are(in vanilla). With the including of loads of community weapons etc it’s gonna be damn frustrating to learn to counter every single different opponent you’ll be facing.
Personally I’d rather let dm skill and teamwork decide who wins, not the aspect of who comes up with the most annoying weapon setup to play against.
Quoted from kuma
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But with a Natascha, he can still apply the slow effect from far away.
Very true, but maybe the heavy hits 1% to 5% of his shots at long distance, that rlly can’t be that much of a fuzz to ban it.
Quoted from kuma
The DH being more effective against the Heavy is an intended design on Valve’s part as well, but we’ve removed it, now you’ve skewed balance artificially (arguable by how much).
What do you base this on rlly? Please show me how valve intended the DH to be the counter for a heavy……..
So we skewed the balance by banning the DH, so we should fuck it up some more by banning the natascha? is that what your saying?
Ban all hats, because kids will cry.
Of course it’s not the intended counter, but Valve aren’t stupid, I believe they could foresee the effect it has (which is kinda obvious). It’s the same intention with TDH and Gunboats, one balances out the other. TDH is easier to hit the heavy with, but the Natascha slows down the soldier making him more vulnerable to spam.
I’m not really strongly for or against the ban to be honest, I’m just promoting discussion. Personally, I think applying the slow from huge distances is a bit overpowered.
But I feel if we’re to ban weapons for x reason, then unlocks that also do x should be banned for consistency. Otherwise the first ban becomes trivial and should be lifted.
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Quoted from xzr
[…]With the including of loads of community weapons etc it’s gonna be damn frustrating to learn to counter every single different opponent you’ll be facing.
On a side note, I always thought that Starcraft is awesome, but this fact repels me from playing it.
And yes, Natascha is really annoying to play against, even though it’s not that game changing as some people believe.
Natascha isn’t ridiculously overpowered, for this reason I think it shouldn’t be banned.
Quoted from caned
Natascha isn’t ridiculously overpowered, for this reason I think it shouldn’t be banned.
don’t be so sensible
these forums can’t take this kind of sensibility
Do realize running 2 heavies of any kind forces the med to constantly heal both heavies and that literally sucks all the heals out of the entire team. Its almost impossible to heal them at full health if the other team is actually doing something called spam.
Depending on what kind of class they are using heavy to replace, your scouts should just wait for backcaps really since 2 heavies offers no mobility. Theres also no reasons at all to loose mid if they are running 2 heavies, just be aggressive and make your demo hold off 1 choke points since they’re basically playing 4vs6.
Slowing down at any range is bad, thats the only bad part about natascha. Should do a range limit, being slow down at long range when you’re just hit by few bullets is rediculous.
sasha is by far the better of the two weapons, provided you can track your opponent – natascha is designed for those players who can’t (euros) – for this reason alone I can see no reason why this weapon should be allowed into competitive (skilled) games.
Quoted from Fragga
sasha is by far the better of the two weapons, provided you can track your opponent – natascha is designed for those players who can’t (euros) – for this reason alone I can see no reason why this weapon should be allowed into competitive (skilled) games.
americans dont like you either.
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