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the spy clocks are balanced. the CnD must be refilled by standing still or decloaking. advantage and disadvantage in one. the dead ringer is also balanced perfectly imo. you cant fool an experienced player who knows how much dmg he has done. ambassador is also balanced because of the very low accuracy after the first shot..

the huntsman is also balanced because you have high dmg output when you hit (especially headshot) but its hard to aim with it… not if you just spam choke points :) You also lose your *long range out of enemy range advantage* Jarate is the strongest unlock because of the +35% dmg and no dmg fall off. but as said before. its not insta ready again and the enemy is only pissed for a few seconds. good teamplay needed! :) Razorback is bad in 6on6 anyway. :>

As long as Ambassador is not bugged it should be allowed. Its quite hard to get a headshot crit. Jarate shouldnt be a problem either cause it takes insanely long to recharge. And the sniper is defenseless without the SMG.
The C&D doesnt have that much advantages either, its quite loud and after a while you know if the spy should have died instantly or not.
And well FAN is quite annoying for us scouts :P

Jarate dont take an insane amount of time :p, not that i’ve timed it but its about 60 secs?
Probably could easily throw one at the start of badlands middle and have enough time to throw another, before the fight was over for middle.

Im for allowing all unlocks bar the sandman, lets trying making this game fun and a bit interesting for a change, if we are going to play 2 CP maps for the rest of our tf2 lives lets spice things up ffs :p. Would be good to see more main class sniper/spys, TF2 is boring!

20 sec :P i tested it 3 weeks ago might changed it, havent read much update logs latley

allow: Cloak and Dagger, Dead Ringer, Huntsman, razorback, ambassador
im not one for damage altering weapons or others that turn the game to your advantage aka jarate/force-a-nature

as long as you cant rocket jump while pissed no way jarate can be allowed imho.

+1

That is a bug which is going to be fixed soon AFAIK.

ban fan and jar. rest is K =)

ban jar and clock and dagger

ambassador is also balanced because of the very low accuracy after the first shot

It doesn’t stay at low accuracy, it’s not a really long “charge” time. Two well placed shots isn’t all that difficult among players i’ve come across using it.

Personally, I don’t like Jarate. In a confined battle/space (ie. mid caps, or badlands last etc.) you can almost cover the whole team + 2 stickies or so maybe.

I don’t have a strong opinion on any of them in the end, for most part they’re not going to be in play for more than 5-10mins of a map I guess.