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Quoted from Starkie

i dont see why this is causing so much fuss
these unlocks make next to no difference apart from maybe the shortstop (i havent actually used it, but it looks pretty good)

Quoted from Starkie

i dont see why this is causing so much fuss
these unlocks make next to no difference apart from maybe the shortstop (i havent actually used it, but it looks pretty good)

Apparently unlocks are somewhat of a trigger for some people…

I’ve mixed a bit with new unlocks last night and unsurprisingly no one kept using any of the unlocks longer than a map. Cowmangler was used a fair bit, but the reload times appear to balance the weapon in comparison to the stock launcher.
A scout was using the short stop with average success, doubt it’ll become a replacement for the scatter.
Only weapon i see getting used outside specific niche situations is the ambassador.

I didn’t know that about the cowmangler, also it has a slightly smaller splash, that makes it seem more of a sidegrade then.

Quoted from ash

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A scout was using the short stop with average success, doubt it’ll become a replacement for the scatter.

wow them banter, how rudey 8)

Quoted from baccart

It is clear that our 6v6 community is changing their point of view on how competitive TF2 should look like. It feels like pubs and ESEA are becoming more and more an aspirations for ETF2L.

MY OPINION ONLY:

I feel like most of these unlocks won’t change anything and it’s like a subtle message to VALVE:”Hey look, we’re letting to use more weapons. Could you support us now?”
But I doubt they will hear or do anything about it.
ETF2L admins should make priorities straight:
a) Allow new unlocks to tempt new players to join 6v6
b) Try to maintain 6v6 as serious as possible, because that’s what most old players want
From my point of view it is very unlikely to accomplish both at the same time.

Yesterday I watched our glory prem players to play with all the crazy unlocks and it was fun for a while and then got boring and even irritative to watch all those gimmicks in action. It felt more like a warm-up, Highlander or some small pub THAN HIGHEST LEVEL TF2.

I don’t think that it is good for our community which now splits into 2 camps:
a) F**k old stuff, we want new and fresh 6v6
b) Don’t make 6v6 a bigger joke than it is right now

And I have to join camp b. We are pretty huge but we should not sell out ourselves. We never will be that huge competitive game and we should stay to the roots, don’t eliminate things that let us love 6v6 format in the first place. We (actually I) want TF2 to be based on skill as much as possible and least on random stuff and gimmicks.

Please save TF2, it’s not dead yet.

*MY OPINION ONLY…

-baccart

This…

Quoted from baccart

“No league for old player” (2014) imdb 3.3/10 rating

Will we leave no choice for players that like a kinda vanilla competitive tf2?

…And also this

Quoted from Fisherman Mamadu

direct hit is op in the hands of a nice pocket

It absolutely is not. Look at ESEA you never see it used in high levels. Last time I saw it it used was by mackey on gravel pit to take down a sentry and that was seasons ago.

i love how every year everyone complains about the new unlocks and then we play a season and nothing changes because nobody uses them anyway except when a specific situation presents itself

Quoted from baccart

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Why do we need unlocks that are useless and never used except trolling? Then there is lack of reasoning for adding them in a first place.

why ban things that don’t need banning?