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Quoted from filterboy

Oh my god. I mean EU CompTF2 “was” known for his strict whitelists.
But EU CompTF2 is more like American shit right now.
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Quoted from baccart

It feels like pubs and ESEA are becoming more and more an aspirations for ETF2L.

Why all the NA hate? The NA scene has usually been more interesting for me and usually higher level than EU.

Quoted from hr

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Why all the NA hate? The NA scene has usually been more interesting for me and usually higher level than EU.

What works for paid league not necessarily will for free league. Of course people won’t troll that much when they paid to play, but in free league…

Quoted from CHERRY

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If they troll instead of playing to win just wreck them :o

The point is to have a good game. We don’t need divisions if we want to win, we can all go div6 and win all games, but what we want is a good, interesting, close games. Who cares that we still win, but the experience is ruined (atleast for me). Yeah you can laugh once or twice, but after that it becomes irritating and boring.
We join different divisions to match against same level teams to have close and interesting games.

Quoted from baccart

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The point is to have a good game. We don’t need divisions if we want to win, we can all go div6 and win all games, but what we want is a good, interesting, close games. Who cares that we still win, but the experience is ruined (atleast for me). Yeah you can laugh once or twice, but after that it becomes irritating and boring.
We join different divisions to match against same level teams to have close and interesting games.

Well I don’t see them joining high divs if they don’t play to winning. It’ll be a novelty first and then everyone will just play.

Quoted from baccart

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What works for paid league not necessarily will for free league. Of course people won’t troll that much when they paid to play, but in free league…

I don’t think it’s relevant that it’s a paid league. Most of the people that play ETF2L put many hours into the game so it’s clearly important to them so I think the money aspect in terms of tryharding or not trolling is irrelevant.

And also if you’re banning weapons not because they’re imbalanced or bad for the game but simply because you think people will troll with them then that’s just wrong. Not to mention the fact that people will probably mess around with new weapons in mixes and then go back to playing with their cookie cutter stuff after a few days if that’s what works best.

Quoted from filterboy

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If you want to play with that kind of Weapons why don’t you just get to UGC?

With weapons like DH or Scottish Resistance? UGC has way way more liberal whitelis and it’s a joke in 6s.

Quoted from filterboy

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If you want to play with that kind of Weapons why don’t you just get to UGC?

No-one plays UGC for one thing so the competition is non existent. They also allow weapons which are bad for the game like quick fix. I’d gladly play NA ESEA over ETF2L as I think it does a lot of things better i.e winlimit, 1 map a week, better whitelist, better skill level.

i dont see why this is causing so much fuss
these unlocks make next to no difference apart from maybe the shortstop (i havent actually used it, but it looks pretty good)