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Quoted from Kaneco

Love the xbow buff, makes it much more viable and fun for comp play.

Hasn’t it always been? I’d say it’s almost op now.

i love this new rocket launcher. super rocket jump misfire wooooooo!

Starting to think that I’m being deliberately baited by Yuki…you can’t seriously think like that…it…can’t….be…possible.

First you say equalizer is great because you can get away luckily..then you say it doesn’t reward bad play. If you need a lucky escape you’ve positioned yourself badly…this is bad play.

The only people that watch TF2 are the people who play it. Most others just feel it’s, ‘lol cartoon noob game’. I want to have fun playing it, being dribbled on by a solly moving at scout speed isn’t fun.

We played with unlocks when they were released in EU for 3 seasons I think, then most realised they made the game more about ‘luck’ and less about skill so we, as a community, decided to make skill the most important factor again, less jars of piss, more strategy, teamwork and thinking. What makes you think what happened in Australia, all be it a mirror image of EU, should influence our thinking now?

When etf2l continued with using unlocks and a rival league decided to ban them EVERY one of the top teams boycotted etf2l and played in the other league. It was a horrible time. I don’t fancy returning to that situation.

Every single person playing 6v6 TF2 competitively in Europe has accepted a vanilla ruleset and we still had 360 teams sign up for this season just gone, (any admin feel free to correct that and make it accurate), I see absolutely no reason to change, ( I don’t buy the whole, more exciting to play malarky…mebbe to watch, but I think I mentioned my stance there already), and many reasons to keep it as is.

We’ve had this debate many times over the years…many, many, many, many times. We’ve split the scene up over it, we’ve got back together. Let’s just leave it as the popular game it is and move forward.

Quoted from Ace

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Hasn’t it always been? I’d say it’s almost op now.

Personally I still used needles, felt they were much more reliable on the long term, and the xbow damage per second (dps) was much lower and required some specific training and aim.

Now I feel more confident with the bow, I think it’s pretty good as it is. The dps is still slightly lower than the needles if you hit everything, but it’s much more competent in allowing you to defend yourself in though times.

Quoted from Sideshow

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Yeah I really wish they hadn’t buffed it because now I think it should probably be banned…

damn you people, all hating fun and stuff, weren’t we all supposed to be happy firing rainbows and “lolipopping” stuff?

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so does the demoman

BAN XBOW

Quoted from CanFo

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Season 10! 360 21.67% drops
Season 11 304 21.59% drops
Season 12 powered by Tt eSPORTS 288 20.49% drops

Numbers are decreasing over time, drop rate is a tick lower this season though.

Interesting, thanks for posting this.

Maybe open our eyes?