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Also at middle the tower is useless please can you lower the height down:

1. A height advantage is always a good thing for a soldier but too high is worse, its actually harder to hit the enemy, lowering the tower will help soldiers at middle point

2. Airshots on the tower are exceedingly hard because you see so little of the player before he lands on the top, if the tower was taken down 6 foot you’d see some real nice midairs on middle point

In fact you could make the medic/ammo huts on the left and right at middle have similar designs with a roof, thereby increasing the effectivness of soldiers at middle point, plus increase the chances of midairs (which everyone loves to watch)

all has been noted down fragga – me and dave played on our version with some of the mafia lads last nite to see what proposals they had. I will keep working on it tonight and will have some screenshots posted tonight (our version isnt the one uploaded atm) – we actually had it mentioned to try and let demos and sollys onto the buildings above the med packs last nite and i will try and sort it out tonight. i just feel sorry for scouts :D

/q spnce in the usual irc channels if you have any input.

Well as it stands atm, playing soldier at middle point means long range spam, and even when the enemy come close they’re usually at a point on the terrain where its extremely hard to hit the ground.

The map in general is badly designed for the soldier class, points 2/4 are perhaps the worst cap points I’ve ever seen (for attack), being elevated forces the soldier to either switch to shotgun or rocket jump onto the cap.

Maybe a good idea for 2/4 would be a small spire type rock(s) set just outside the door, near the valley (where the health pack hut is) so that soldiers can jump on top of it to gain some slight advantage over the defending team; this would also give the attacking team some cover when attacking through the valley.

St!kky, I pretty sure I’m not the only soldier who plays TF2

Respawn timer are the only thing that really needed adjustments.

And maybe a slight change on the last point so that defenders cant stand in their spawn while defending the last point. Moving the spawn doors to the sides of the spawn might do it.

Yup, know what you mean though. Don’t think it needs it with the way we’re currently setting it out.

“However, now that cp_pro_fastlane is being used, we’ll have to use a new name for the map. Any suggestions?”

In UT we were used to have «mapname»_LE maps which stands for League Edition