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Meh, we played against some russian team (think it was Anger Management) on gully and they ran a hoovie all the time. They did a pretty good job, surprised us on the first mid. We still beat them with a little adaption and aggression.

Heavy is an easy class to play tbh. While I personally suck as it (I twitch 90% of my shots as soldier), our scouts and other soldier absolutely rape on the class, for the simple fact that it’s easier on the aim than, for example, sniper.

Double heavy is irritating as fuck, especially on gpit (<3 you epx), but it can be countered, with a little teamwork and coordination that is. I see why an engie on mid would make a team feel annoyed, as it just shows how much better the other team is.

We used to run an engie carrying sentry to gully 2nd, it fucking raped btw.

Something like an engie isn't really a reason to feel pissed off though. Engie has 125-150 health, which is a small amount, and the engie can't have a rollout and is slower than the medic. CRIT SHOTTY FTW.

TL;DR SHOOT THE FUCKING HEAVY IN THE HEAD, IF THEY RUN ENGIE, KILL HIM AND HIS LEETLE SCENT TREE.

Quoted from MEGAMIDDIE

I wish my team let me play gunslinger engi or targe demo.

Pikachu let you be a targe demo in that mix about a week ago D:

And for the rest, we noticed the rage using a not-sousual class can bring along. In AFS, we played against this russian team, and we were running a heavy (Spar: Div 1 hoovy!) and they actually literally used the words “noobs” and “pub play” during the game. There are 9 classes for a reason imo.

Quoted from skeej

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Exchange Street Fighter for TF2, and throws and specials for Heavies and whatever. The only difference is we can speak directly to the ETF2L staff instead of the SF players who can’t communicate directly with Capcom (I know they usually involve a handful of top players to develop their next game though). So if you don’t like the rules as they are, battle the rules but not the players playing perfectly within the rules.

Sorry skeej, I like you but jesus don’t become another moron who tries to apply Sirlin’s “theories” to every game. It doesn’t work for TF2 because of the frequency of the updates which aren’t tested in a competitive environment. This works for games designed around the format they support, i.e. it would apply to TF2 if Valve designed the game for 6v6.

If i’m not right just let me know, but you plak plak because enemy plak plak?

Quoted from Linus

having played 2 and a half seasons(d6-5-4) in a team where we ran heavy fulltime i can safely say that its a viable tactic, but it does slow the game down, and it’s not much fun.

Heavy works fairly well in the lower divs, (4)/5/6. After that, teams start to play together much better and actually focus the heavy, taking him down a lot easier and making it much less effective.

If you run heavy at any point you deserve all the rage you get, not because its op but its just no fun for the opposition. It’s a massive cop out in lower divs particularly on a slow mid fight like freight.
Other than that I’m cool with anything.

Quoted from Spike Himself

If you think freight has a slow mid fight you haven’t played against Quarantine!

Did you ever play against us spikey? :D