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Anti Cheat - What would you improve?

Created 8th March 2010 @ 18:58

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Skyride

DUCS

Quoted from Dr-GimpfeN

did you agree this?!
dont be dumb and think you are totaly anonymous in the internet.

What age are you gimpfen? 14? 13? I’m personally gonna guess a fairly immature 15 year old.

Take note, you’re calling a guy, who has been involved in this area of business for a fair number of years, dumb. In his own area of expertee’s. hmm….

Didrole

Quoted from d2m

The fact that you’re storing personally identifiable information for each user without informing them is bad enough.

Not for each user, only for those that triggers a detection.

Quoted from d2m

Assuming your dedicated servers are in France, then they’re going to be covered under the French Data Protection Act 1978.

Legally, if you want to keep information about a user, their ip address etc, you will need to register with: Commission nationale de l’informatique et des libertés (French Data Protection Authority). I imagine you haven’t done so, might be worth thinking about :)

As an individual I do not have to make a declaration to the CNIL for this kind of data.

Quoted from d2m

In essence, the whole point of my continued hatred of your plugin is because of all the mistruths and sneaky shit you’re doing behind people’s back. You have no right to collect people’s IP addresses, Steam IDs etc without the EXPLICIT permission of the user involved. Obviously this cannot be obtained individually, so it would be done on a per server basis where the user agrees that by joining the server dblocker will keep personally identifiable information on file.

Until you implement this and make it clear on your website, I will continue to speak out about it. I find you a deceitful little man.

I will add a message on the website and an other in a future plugin update that will be printed to the user’s console at his connection for all privacy paranoids.

If you had taken time to contact me directly regarding this problem instead of shitting on the plugin everywhere you could, this issue would have been fixed since a while.

Chaos

skyride for world emperor!

God I love etf2l.

[thread]
As far as I understand, dblock will only be able to prevent wallhacks and speedhacks.
To my knowledge, speedhacks are quite easy to spot, primarily due to the user moving slightly faster than the rest. So this is quite pointless.

Wallhacks on the other hand are much harder to spot, this plugin will actually prevent potential and current users of wallhack. BUT! The anti-wallhack feature of dblock operates by not sending info about players that the player in question can not potentially see. (eg. behind a wall) This means that if anyone wants to make a video where the user frags someone behind a wall (eg. by rollers, or by airshotting someone and then falling behind a wall) and they want to smooth it, to show how the victim dies, it will not be possible.
[/thread]

octochris

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Quoted from Dr-GimpfeN

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i bet while posting on this forum your IP Adress is stored in the database.
i also bet by visiting the page your IP Adress is stored somewhere for collecting statistics of how many visitors this site has.
btw: when you connect on a TF2 server your SteamID, IP Adress, Nickname,…. are stored in the server logs!!!!!
OMFG WTF BBQ

did you agree this?!
dont be dumb and think you are totaly anonymous in the internet.
every site you visit stores information bout you….
WELCOME TO THE INTERNETZ !!!

lol, are you stupid?

Quoted from octochris

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lol, are you stupid?

He would probably do a great job as my school’s IT “professional”.

Dr-GimpfeN

9g1c

Quoted from dotfloat™

BUT! The anti-wallhack feature of dblock operates by not sending info about players that the player in question can not potentially see. (eg. behind a wall) This means that if anyone wants to make a video where the user frags someone behind a wall (eg. by rollers, or by airshotting someone and then falling behind a wall) and they want to smooth it, to show how the victim dies, it will not be possible.

best argument okay I am totaly convinced about not using AC-Tools anymore -_-

are you fucking seriouse?

Quoted from Dr-GimpfeN

[…]
best argument okay I am totaly convinced about not using AC-Tools anymore -_-

are you fucking seriouse?

Isn’t it past your bedtime?

octochris

(0v0)

Quoted from dotfloat™

[…]

He would probably do a great job as my school’s IT “professional”.

i know what you mean, same at my school :D

Skyride

DUCS

Quoted from Dr-GimpfeN

[…]
best argument okay I am totaly convinced about not using AC-Tools anymore -_-

are you fucking seriouse?

Or more to the point, it means you can’t hear people through walls. If you don’t think that is a huge problem, you really have no idea what you’re talking about.

Azdean

WTH!?

Quoted from Dr-GimpfeN

[…]
best argument okay I am totaly convinced about not using AC-Tools anymore -_-

are you fucking seriouse?

What he has a completely valid point. I’d rather not lose a multitude of descent frag video’s so some 13 year old that would be caught by anyone with a iq above 10 can be scared off by a plug in that we don’t actually need.

VAC deals with “Public hacks” and the AC team deals with everything else I honestly don’t see the issue with how things are now. It’s not like we suddenly have a wave of suspected cheaters.

Quoted from Azdean

[…]

What he has a completely valid point. I’d rather not lose a multitude of descent frag video’s so some 13 year old that would be caught by anyone with a iq above 10 can be scared off by a plug in that we don’t actually need.

VAC deals with “Public hacks” and the AC team deals with everything else I honestly don’t see the issue with how things are now. It’s not like we suddenly have a wave of suspected cheaters.

Quoted from Skyride

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Or more to the point, it means you can’t hear people through walls. If you don’t think that is a huge problem, you really have no idea what you’re talking about.

herpderp

DAKKA

Quoted from dotfloat™

God I love etf2l.

[thread]
As far as I understand, dblock will only be able to prevent wallhacks and speedhacks.
To my knowledge, speedhacks are quite easy to spot, primarily due to the user moving slightly faster than the rest. So this is quite pointless.

Wallhacks on the other hand are much harder to spot, this plugin will actually prevent potential and current users of wallhack. BUT! The anti-wallhack feature of dblock operates by not sending info about players that the player in question can not potentially see. (eg. behind a wall) This means that if anyone wants to make a video where the user frags someone behind a wall (eg. by rollers, or by airshotting someone and then falling behind a wall) and they want to smooth it, to show how the victim dies, it will not be possible.
[/thread]

So it’s entirely useless.

myNax

Quoted from Skyride

[…]
What age are you gimpfen? 14? 13? I’m personally gonna guess a fairly immature 15 year old.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs001.snc3/10855_1274224180187_1367416410_792904_5498501_n.jpg

octochris

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Quoted from Dr-GimpfeN

[…]
best argument okay I am totaly convinced about not using AC-Tools anymore -_-

are you fucking seriouse?

hey you, yes you!

you’re a moron :)

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