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wranglerless meta would only work in another ONC, not in main seasons.

Quoted from kKaltUu

wranglerless meta would only work in another ONC, not in main seasons.

bullshit, wranglerless does work and is actually more fun to play.

coordinated pushes counter the wrangler, thus it adds more skill to the game

Lets ban the Wrangler so we have to ban direct hit as well – there, You have your reason Why its pointless.

Also I prefer to play against a good old wrangled lvl 3 to a shitload of Minis popping out of the ground everywhere (;

Think you’re focusing on the wrong weapon. If you want to ban a weapon, take out the Rescue Ranger.

Also, ban Dead Ringer/Spycicle pls <3

Quoted from ondkaja

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Not sure what you are trying to say? Are you saying that Wrangler is necessary because it counters DH?

I’m saying on an Gunslinger loadout, the Pistol is a viable option (I prefer it to the Wrangler in that case actually). But on a defensive loadout, the Wrangler is simply essential to stomach the damage that’ll be coming towards your gun; there is literally no reason to use the Pistol.

If you guys cant coordinate 9 players to take out a sentry and pressure the enemy players out of good position, then you might want to consider an easier gamemode like 6v6.

Quoted from HartzFartz

If you guys cant coordinate 9 players to take out a sentry and pressure the enemy players out of good position, then you might want to consider an easier gamemode like 6v6.

Its not that it cant be done, its the fact that you need to throw so much resources to take it down. Wether thats a problem or a good thing is personal opinion, i guess, but i prefer banning op unlocks. Just speaking my mind here