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Well as a guy who mained Engineer I have to say I loved having a weapon that made Engineer more important and active in the game. That is the debate with all these weapons, the Soldier doesn’t really impact a HL game so having some weapons which are OP shouldn’t be such a big deal. Cow Mangler for example can disable sentries so can give the soldier a more active role in the game.

Enforcer I think is kind of OP, tend to agree with you there but then again…Spy play can be just as hard when the opposition is good at keeping track at you so having some firepower comes in handy.

It is all about having you play your favorite class in HL and trying to make an impact.

Personally, I don’t really mind any of the unlocks. There have of course been times when I’ve raged at the huntsman, dead ringer, cloak & dagger, wrangler, frontier justice, cow mangler, machina, sandman, bonk, FaN, shortstop, equalizer, detonator etc, but that’s simply part of the game.

But yes, there are weapons that might be game-breaking or have serious exploits, and those will always be looked in to. However, if you start trying to tweak the game and form your own version of TF2, I think you’re doing it wrong. You might want to get all serious in 6v6 and discuss unlocks more than you actually play the game, but not in Highlander. Let Valve tweak the Wrangler, Liberty Launcher, Tomislav or Shortstop if that’s what people really want. They have all the feedback and they have the possibility of modifying the official version of the game.

Based on the descriptions of the weapon bugs, none of them seem serious and common enough to warrant a ban. Still, if it turns out it is indeed rather common and Valve can’t fix it, then it should be banned. I’m am a bit worried about the Reserve Shooter though. The question is how often the bug happens…

Quoted from Comedian

I would say that the enforcer really needs to be removed, i do not believe that the spy should have a 2 hit kill weapon for most classes, or 3 hits for the pyro, medic and demo and soldier.

I don’t like theorizing too much. You’d have to set up a spreadsheet with all classes and their health, and how much each should could damage (min and max), and for all three distances (point blank, medium and long) and how many shots would be needed to kill off each class, also considering that you will miss some of the shots. When you say “2 hit kill for most classes, or 3 hits for the pyro, medic, demoman and soldier”, you’re assuming the spy shoots and hits his target twice or three times point blank.

Anyway, I’m not saying that it wouldn’t be better to make the Enforcer a tad weaker, but I think you’re going down a slippery slope if you – based off little feedback, mainly speculation – ban a weapon from a casual league, rather than leaving the tweaking to Valve. If the Enforcer is truly overpowered, it will become evident, and then Valve will tweak it anyway.

Quoted from ashkan

I don’t like theorizing too much. You’d have to set up a spreadsheet with all classes and their health, and how much each should could damage (min and max), and for all three distances (point blank, medium and long) and how many shots would be needed to kill off each class, also considering that you will miss some of the shots. When you say “2 hit kill for most classes, or 3 hits for the pyro, medic, demoman and soldier”, you’re assuming the spy shoots and hits his target twice or three times point blank.

In before people realize scattergun’s overpowered.

Quoted from ashkan

I don’t like theorizing too much. You’d have to set up a spreadsheet with all classes and their health, and how much each should could damage (min and max), and for all three distances (point blank, medium and long) and how many shots would be needed to kill off each class, also considering that you will miss some of the shots. When you say “2 hit kill for most classes, or 3 hits for the pyro, medic, demoman and soldier”, you’re assuming the spy shoots and hits his target twice or three times point blank.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At72J5xlGZyQdHdpOGdyNHBiV1ZGUHlhX1BWSzNsa0E&hl=en_US#gid=0

and in reply to the reserve shooter bug im not so sure how often it happens myself but a double jumping scout is classed as a airborne target and thus can be crited upon. Also with the addition of the pyro now being allowed the RS when you airblast any class backwards they become an airbourne target and can be crited on.

I’m also not saying that these bugs are game changing but there exploits in the game and exploiting the game in my opinion shouldn’t be allowed.

Also what happens if new weapons are released during the season? Do they automatically get allowed as all weapons are allowed? Or are you going to set up a team to test weapons like UGC does?

Like Bubble said you don’t have to follow UGC but UGC have been running a very successful highlander league in NA and very few complaints have come from the weapon bads etc.

Quoted from RaCio

You mixed up long and short range damage

Sorted. :D

Quoted from ashkan

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I’m not sure if there’s a single part of this post that doesn’t make me question your validity to be someone making these kinds of decisions.

Quoted from Ghent

Now that spy can have the particle effects when they disguise, will unusuals be allowed?

According to the rules there currently not banned.

2.2.2 Set hats banned, other hats and misc items allowed