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Quoted from Permzilla

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So straight off the bat, it’s meant for semi-experienced players or players that behave well. Already players which are not experienced are allowed into this ‘advanced’ lobby system just because they behave well (while I don’t play lobbies often – I assume this includes a hefty amount of players). I understand the desire to reward people who behave well – but I don’t like this solution personally. Essentially you’ve created an alternative for more experienced players, and then you’re adding non-experienced players to it.

Secondly lobbies will now be full of people trying to stat whore these rankings, while the rankings are good for a bit of ego boosting, they do not translate into a skill level. Allowing the top 20% really doesn’t mean it’s the best 20% of players.

20% is also much too high in my opinion, this is every 1 in 5 players on the website. If you want these advanced lobbies to actually be advanced I would think you would need a lot less players. Bearing in mind that not everyone in the top 20% will pay for it, but still. Only time will tell how many players sign up for it.

I think in the current state you’re describing I can’t imagine it being a significantly better playing experience, and more importantly I don’t think it will rival TF2Pickup.net for the majority of the ETF2L userbase (although perhaps more active).

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Quoted from Useless

Why would I play advanced lobbies over tf2pickup? Like, what extra services do you provide that they don’t already have for free?

how about for competing sites like tf2center and tf2pickup actually work together and create one good service instead of dividing the tf2 playerbase into even more parts? :()
also don’t see why i’d play this over tf2pickup and dblmixes

Quoted from letto

how about for competing sites like tf2center and tf2pickup actually work together and create one good service instead of dividing the tf2 playerbase into even more parts? :()
also don’t see why i’d play this over tf2pickup and dblmixes

because why wouldn’t you prefer playing vs some noobs that are better than other noobs and having to talk to them in mumble?
oh also it costs money!
another thing to take into consideration you can get banned after you have paid money to play it.

Oh how disappointing

I quite like playing tf2pickup highlander matches from time to time, with the one thing bothering me being how inactive it is and as a consequence how inconvenient it can be to actually fill it up in a reasonable amount of time. For this reason alone I can be willing to temporarily ignore the mass retardation of the average tf2center player just so I can have fun. This dynamic between active playerbase and overall competence is what keeps me circulating between tf2center and tf2pickup, and it was therefore that I expected tf2center to truly crown themselves kings of the field by being the very first to have both.

Sadly, you’ve made mistakes. The monthly 1€ fee, while not much at all, is not something that I feel you should reasonably expect from the playerbase. You are big, but you are not that big. I’m not very well informed I admit but you peak at little short of 1000 people using the website simultaneously? The majority of which are casual gamers/pubbers and all other sorts of people who do not form a large enough niche that will indeed make up an active enough pay-2-play playerbase that will be capable of competing with tf2pickup. I also feel as your decision to incorporate 20% of the playerbase, while being definitively a step in the right direction, is not exactly being done properly in my view.

The aim is to have both quality as well as an active playerbase, yet it feels at first glance that this might be a shot to the foot and render the advanced lobbies with neither quality nor activity.

Might be wrong, who knows, but I’m not giving money to try something that I haven’t been convinced yet is better than an existing free service of high quality.

Quoted from Hildreth

when TF2C’s actual survey found over 90% of people on the website (according to Masternoob) take lobbies seriously whenever they play

lma0

Is this for real, it can’t be

Quoted from letto

how about for competing sites like tf2center and tf2pickup actually work together and create one good service instead of dividing the tf2 playerbase into even more parts? :()
also don’t see why i’d play this over tf2pickup and dblmixes

Competition has always been the best thing for consumers… right?

$1 or not no one is going to pay money to play something that is already available entirely for free.