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Couldn’t we have 2 systems?

1) as now with captains mode or without but open to all and free for newbs to ‘ruin’ the game.

2) private mode with only people invited or based on skill or w/e.

I have no idea how difficult this kind of thing is so excuse me if I’m asking for the stars, but the option to keep a particular PUG high skilled would keep everyone in the same place and we wouldn’t need tf2lobby, pixel, PUG2 AND this thing.

EVERYONE can be on the same website playing in the same or different games but one big whole all together and not split up over numerous irc channels and websites.

My name is Byte and I would like to play in a high skilled PUG right about now: DIV 2+ PUG STARTED.

My name is Kaidus and I’d like to play with some div 6’ers and show them a few things right about now: OPEN PUG STARTED.

My name is Byte and now I’d like to play with some reasonably skilled guys and give them a helping hand: DIV4+ PUG STARTED.

My name is Monkeh and right now I’d like to play with other shitters like me and no-one above div 5: DIV 5-6 PUG STARTED NOW.

This way everyone can play the kind of games they want when they want all from the same place.

I’m an idealist obviously.

Hey, good luck with this, it sounds like a great idea. Fwiw I agree with Monkeh, if you want to appeal to everyone you’ll need options for both a captain system and a tf2lobby type system for the hordes who don’t know each other.

In the end, it’ll come down to how many of us are willing to suck it up and play medic:

http://i.imgur.com/w1gmY.png

Medics being those with the red m by their name (which is just about half of those added up)

Here are my random thoughts on how a TF2 lobby/matchmaking system should work.

I do not think that it is clever to divide the community in almost any way as we are a very small esport as it is, and would make finding a game take longer.

You eventually boil everything down to 2 options: create lobby or quickmatch. You can create a party to join either.

With both lobby and quick match, there should be lots of options such as inputting divisions you are looking to play. You should be able to input a server for the client to use, and if you are more than 3 in a party you can also suggest the mumble server.

The system could check everyone’s profiles in either the lobby or the party, and if it detects that there are 4 or more people in the same 6v6 team (maybe have to also tick a box), more options become available, such as only playing teams with the same or more players. (THIS WOULD BE AMAZING).

The system basically takes the people banded together either through the lobby system and/or the quick match matching 6 players of the skill requested and finds another team of players who all request the same division, with at least one person who suggest a server, or taking one from a pool, like lobby does.

With the lobby system, you can make it not search the 6v6 matchamaking system if you want, allowing you to simply have an open game of 12 slots to join and maybe learn about the game.

Something like this will make finding and playing mixes SO MUCH EASIER than the system now, which is spamming everyone “any mixes going on?”, it would also match teams more likely with teams and mixes with mixes. Maybe make it give suggestions to mixparties what division they should search based on their average division finish.

Have report methods similar to lobby where leaves get a %, and you can report for not joining the mumble. Having a way to record how long it takes the person to join a game and displaying that average would be cool. People with less game leaves, mumble abandones and fast gamejoins should be favoured for slots in games. Anyone with too high scores should create flags for admins to have a word with them or ban them.
This system means no more “oh we have 2, lets spend the next hour looking for people wanting to mix”, “i cant be bothered to find a mix/put one together so i just wont play”, “lets spam irc with 6v6 teams only plz, only to get a ‘team’ of 3 people and the rest are prem people offclassing.” etc. Sure pixel is alright for this, but I really cant be asked to log into quakenet, and im sure there are so many people put off for one reason or another.

Make a 1 stop place for all comp tf2 needs. There are simple boards where people can put up a message saying either when their team will be playing, requesting other teams, and when someone is going to create a noobyhelp lobby where people can learn things from the pros.

Basically what Im saying: make the get go VERY simple and easy, 2 buttons minimum to start playing (let it take your highest division finish, or your party’s, if you cant be bothered to input a division), but also make it so there are LOTS of options for people who want a more specific experience.

6:35 in the morning, most of what I say is probably obvious or bs.
TLDR: Make it take less than or 2 buttons to start playing, more complexity is optional to the player, but match teams with teams and mixes with mixes.

This is going to seem really tryhard, but I really like things like game design and ui design: http://i.imgur.com/DL2yL.png

This is a shitty art vision of how the ui should be laid out for a matchmaking system imo. Its very similar to lobby, but I think lobby doesnt do a lot of things right.

TBH if lobby forced players to join a mumble and let you set a division for open games, and set an option for teams only, it would be pretty much perfect.

Quoted from dodgydogman

This is going to seem really tryhard, but I really like things like game design and ui design: http://i.imgur.com/DL2yL.png

This is a shitty art vision of how the ui should be laid out for a matchmaking system imo. Its very similar to lobby, but I think lobby doesnt do a lot of things right.

TBH if lobby forced players to join a mumble and let you set a division for open games, and set an option for teams only, it would be pretty much perfect.

That is not a fluid design.