Nations Cup: Round of Sixteen – Season 6: Week 1 – Staff changes – Ban hammer

Date October 3, 2009

Nations Cup: Round of Sixteen

The group phase of our 2nd Nations’ Cup is over and ended with no real surprises. All 16 teams from Pot A & B made it to the playoffs. Now the more interesting part starts. In the Round of Sixteen, every group winner will meet a 2nd place in a “Best of 3 Maps” match with possible overtime on all maps. Thrilling matches can be expected. See below for all important details.

  • [Playoff Tree]
  • [Fixtures]
  • Maps: 1. cp_badlands 2. ctf_turbine 3. cp_fastlane
  • Schedule Deadline: Thursday, 8th October, 23:59 CEST
  • Match Deadline: Wednesday, 14th October, 23:59 CEST

Season 6: Week 1

Season 6 officially started on Monday and many matches have already been played, including some surprising results in the top divisions. Please stay on the initiative and already start to contact your Week 2 opponent.

Bear in mind Week 1’s Schedule Deadline is this Sunday. All unscheduled matches will be assigned a Default Date. Add a comment to your match page if you haven’t yet, and have problems reaching your opponent.

Also, please be sure to submit your teams’ results and verify results which have been submitted by your opponent.

  • [Season 6 Deadlines]
  • Week 1 – Schedule Deadline: Sunday, 4th October, 23:59 CEST
  • Week 1 – Match Deadline: Sunday, 11th October, 23:59 CEST
  • Week 2 – Schedule Deadline: Sunday, 11th October, 23:59 CEST

Staff changes

Our admin search was successful. Thanks to over 30 people for showing their will to help and sorry we only were able to take in a small number of new admins. A big warm welcome to our new additions, hope you will have a good time!

On the other side, we had to say goodbye to some old admins.  Gryzor, m0re, Freaka and DrG left the staff. Thanks a lot for your help on this project and we wish you the best for the future.

Ban hammer

We are reorganizing our Anti-Cheat team, which is now back on track again. Catching up the first cheaters wasn’t hard. We decided to send a clear signal and raised the punishment to a permanent ban. See below for an overview.

  • [Smart Move]: banned for Season 6 & 7 due to supporting a cheater
  • [Infedel] a.k.a. [Trullo]: permanent ban for creating new account to prevent a ban
  • [Giordy]: permanent ban for using an aimbot
  • [Chinaski]: permanent ban for using an aimbot
  • [oZZy]: permanent ban for using a wallhack

58 Comments

  1. b@sH: hf said:

    fucking Chinaski hat an aimbot ? !!!!!!
    http://www.esl.eu/eu/player/4141556/

    he joined the esl scout 1on1 ladder an had a 11-0 streak
    stupid cheater

  2. Vali: -9w- said:

    Looks like supporting that cheater wasn’t such a…

    *puts on sunglasses*

    …smart move.

    YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

  3. FADe said:

    Who was the cheater in Smart Move? Name and shame!

  4. BERSERKER: broder - PRO said:

    Well played, admins.

  5. Dr.LeoN said:

    http://fakkelbrigade.eu/leon/b/etf2l.jpg

    <3 Vali

  6. Animal said:

    cheetah – [Profile] – Anti-Cheat admin

    lolz

    no more pickup2 for me

  7. DrSAuna: Paracoccidioido said:

    Gryzor: All this flaming is destroying the league, making people want to quit because they do not feel their work is fun anymore and what not. This will only hurt _EVERYBODY_ in the end. You’d be stuck with.. me.. alone. Nobody would like that.

    Prediction fail.

  8. Relentless said:

    Obvious troll is obvious @ eQuiD ;)

  9. Extremer said:

    rofl leon!

    fuck vali

  10. che: fa» - [SpA] said:

    @ b@sh: hes banned in ESL as well
    @ Animal: just play medic, there is always a need for medics and you dont have to be scared then <3

  11. che: fa» - [SpA] said:

    Oh I forgot, gl hf 2 GER
    against BEL and if victorious then likely against SWE

  12. Admirable: (Toucan Ambassador) said:

    5 year bans now?
    Seems a little inconsistent :D
    Do we get to see any evidence now the punishment is more, er, permanent?

  13. Koeitje: AUTOBOTS said:

    Guess I was right about Giordy.

  14. Orb: is Addicted said:

    ul Italians, that wasn’t a smart move :P

  15. rge said:

    uhh sweet, ban-weekend is back. good move to give out perm bans. good work admins, keep it going!

  16. RaCio: GoT² said:

    Stop the flaming and flamebaiting please.

    Next time you’ll might lose you posting privileges along with your flames.

  17. Atty: ORKZORKZORKZORK said:

    [Chinaski]: permanent ban for using an aimbot
    Thanks to me ofc.

  18. fear887: entropy said:

    “Guess I was right about Giordy.”

    it’s been 6 month that italian community is asking for ban him, he was banned 1 year ago for using aimbot in an italian ESL gather with another account.

  19. Koeitje: AUTOBOTS said:

    Guess you didn’t go through the right channels fear887 :)

  20. fear887: entropy said:

    “Guess you didn’t go through the right channels fear887 :)”

    nope, i know that they told us that there wasn’t enough proves

  21. Koeitje: AUTOBOTS said:

    Guess my stv’s were conclusive then :P

  22. Keyro: Cheater said:

    I think permanent ban i not a good solution. 1 Year ban was a good lenght. good lenght to think about how stupid that was. Now cheaters won’t wait 1 year they will create a new account, you can’t forbid someone to play IMO. Plus the fact that everyone deserve a second chance, i really don’t think it’s a good decision :)
    A year ban + Upload POV Record after every matc +anti cheat (Like XRAy, aequitas, etc…).

  23. Anathema said:

    uploading POV = bullshit amounts of data
    anti cheat programs are shit

  24. AnAkIn said:

    Keyro, cheaters don’t even wait 1 year, almost all of them create a new account right after the ban, so it won’t really change anything.

  25. xtala said:

    Insert joke about someone who calls himself cheetah being an anti-cheat admin

  26. che: fa» - [SpA] said:

    :)

  27. AcidReniX: RaWr :: said:

    Perm ban = fail.

    If I was cheating, and got caught, and received a permanent ban, and I still wanted to play, i’d get a new steam account. If it was a 1 year ban, i’d probably hang around and play PCWs asuming a team would take me. When the ban expired I’d be playing leagues again.

    Obviously we don’t want cheaters in the league, but someone who is caught cheating is more likely to get a new steam ID and carry on cheating if they get a perm ban.

    Not to mention since ETF2L doesn’t give out evidence of their bans, a player could be incorrectly banned based on nothing but the opinions of a couple of anti-cheat admins. An incorrect ban of a year while inconvinient, wouldn’t be the end of the world. A perm ban would mean an innocent player has to change alias, lose e-friends etc…

    Nationscup playoff table looks stacked ;pp

  28. Xzar said:

    +1 arx

  29. Extremer said:

    +1 xzar

  30. Shabbaman: GoT<3 - HoT<3 said:

    So we can play with the banhammer unlock in the league now? Nice!

  31. exm said:

    +1 Etremer.

    On a serious note: I totaly agreee that 1 year ban should be back becouse of told reasons.

    P.S.: lol @ David Caruso!

  32. Gniedler: T4F - FuDoo :> said:

    rofl @ leon/vali, wp

  33. gLongas said:

    http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9758/banday.jpg

  34. Slick: Epsilon said:

    good to see the admins doing taking this serious.

  35. Vali: -9w- said:

    <3 Leon

  36. b0nes: [DA] - [DA] said:

    haven’t admins known about smart move for ages? my clan came 4th in that div and i remember being told at the time smart move were dodgy, and when i asked etf2l admin they said they had looked into it and decided not to punish them. not that it really matters now, just kinda anoying.

  37. Tsu: RaWr :: said:

    Big +1 fo my man Arx (especially about the incorrectly banned player’s part, based on opinions).

    And guys keep saying “gg admins for the bans” without seeing any proof of it keeps make me laugh a lot.
    Can’t wait for the next episodes.

  38. phiL said:

    gg admins for the bans

  39. Silan: (Actual Size) said:

    I love how you got “clear signal” in a sentence along with a random change of ban periods. Wtf :D.

  40. D2M: vertex » - derptex9 said:

    Bye Giordy o/

  41. Reemy: faceplant . - faceplant said:

    +1 AcidReniX

    perm ban = fail

  42. tapley: TEZC - TEZC said:

    lol, a year is a long time in gaming. Its essentially a life time ban in tf2 anyway so who cares.
    If you get banned for a year, and then your wait a year of your life just to play tf2 again in an internet league then your probably a sad billy no mates/cock/life/(Insert life proving noun here).

    Ban the twats for life, the only people who are saying to ban them for less time are just the people who’ve had team mates banned in the past and cant accept their team mates cheated (LOL BAN WITHUT PROOFS?)

    The system works fine, who cares if they dont release evidence to the public? Its none of your buisness, they do release evidence to other leagues though so if you find yourself banned in other leagues from other admins its pretty obvious.

  43. che: fa» - [SpA] said:

    it was decide before I came,
    I will try to discuss this once more
    Because imho players like trullo who didnt learn their lesson,
    should get a lifetime ban, I guess you everybody agrees
    but players who did it the first time (are hopefully willing to change), shouldnt get it;
    and I hope it will be change from permanent to 1/2 yr(s)

  44. F2 :]: Danmark said:

    In my eyes, a permanent ban is not so much a punishment as it is a way of preventing people from cheating in the first place. By saying “if you cheat you get a permanent ban” you send out a clear message saying that cheating is completely unacceptable under any circumstance. That should keep most people from cheating, and the few that choose to ignore the rule… well, it’s really their own fault that they get banned.

    Will people try to circumvent their ban by creating a new steam account? Yes, some of them will. But they will be caught again unless they get a new ip + voice changer + they lose all their e-friends, etc. It’s very difficult and tough not to be caught again.

    Would people not create a new steam account if their ban only was 1 year? No, 1 year is a very long time, especially in tf2. In the pickups I have several times seen people trying to avoid their ban (by creating a new Q-auth) even if their ban was only a few days.

    So to make my points short:
    1. Permanent ban is way to prevent people from cheating. If they decide to ignore the rule, they are pretty stupid.
    2. People will try to circumvent the ban but in most cases they will not be successful.
    3. Even if the ban time is only 1 year, it is still a very long time and people will still try to circumvent the ban (which has already been seen several times on etf2l).

    Making it 6 months like cheetah suggested would be even worse. I have seen people in here get several months ban just for writing something in the forum/news comment… Surely a cheater should get a much longer ban.

  45. NeoN: boys said:

    And noone cares about wrong bans
    keep it going

  46. che: fa» - [SpA] said:

    f2: 6 months? I talked about 1/2 yr(s)
    but I dont know one place/ thing in life where you get a lifetime ban (whatever) after you made one mistake (even cheating is a small mistake)

  47. che: fa» - [SpA] said:

    oh I see now 1/2 year :/
    I meant 1 or 2 year(s)

  48. F2 :]: Danmark said:

    Okay, just ignore the last line in my post then. :)

  49. Koeitje: AUTOBOTS said:

    Just perm ban. 1 year is a long time in gaming, esp in tf2. People will just create a new account anyways.

  50. FluffY ZeuZ said:

    3 of 5 bans is italians.. :/ 2 players, and an entire team.. Ouch.. Must hurt in Italian clans to see that number. 60% so far.

  51. Anathema said:

    Italian clans, I’m sure, are happy to see their retarded countrymates banned ;)

  52. Kop: [CiC] - CiC said:

    Unfortunately every country has cheaters. Wasn’t that long ago every french was a cheat and shortly before that it was the russians

  53. Slutspel i ETF2L Nations Cup : Team Fortress 2 (TF2) på Onlinegamer.se said:

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  54. sla: MILANO said:

    no Italian is happy with the ban clan smartmovie. are people and friends who do not deserve it and the effect of the ban will be longer than his term. can revise this sentence? sry4mybadenglish

  55. U-die said:

    Italy is the new France.

  56. Daggial: fap said:

    i agree with banning trullo/infedel but not the team smart move. they very probably knew they were doing the wrong team but i want everybody know they reached div 3 clean of cheats, as trullo was banned very long time ago and considering that he never cheated again with the new account. now they will have to restart everything

  57. Anathema said:

    Which sets a really good example for any other idiots thinking of letting their hacking teammate play again under an alias.

  58. che: fa» - [SpA] said:

    I’m sad that a clan does willingly (try to) bypass a ban of a player.
    I agree with punishing such a clan.