Highlander Season 10 powered by Tt eSPORTS - Premiership Tier


Week 7

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UnitedKingdom Feila eSports finanzieren durch ROOMBA© vs European The Bureau
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The Bureau (9) 1pt, Scriptzon, Zafus, kuli, Chronos, Just1s, Rick May, MatteX, scrambled
Feila eSports finanzieren durch ROOMBA© (7) Teatime, Leila, Munky, JoeN, Yumppu, MS, Afirax
Unrostered (2) HartzFartz, WML


  • The Bureau [Minor] Unable to provide a requested demo (1st time)



  1. Leila: :3 - :Blinky: said:

    I think for us the best is thursday 21. if other days we can play only 21

  2. Chronos: BMS said:

    We cannot play on Thursday as Just1s needs to do work for an assignment in on Friday, we can play any day before then though. Wednesday 21?

  3. Default Date said:

    A default date has been set for this match by ETF2L.
    The default date is: Wednesday, 04 May 2016, 21:00
    Please play this match on the appointed time and submit the results.
    If the default date does not suit you, please contact your opponent and ask them to reschedule.

  4. WML said:


  5. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    u gon die kid

  6. WML said:

    But I will die with honour :^)

  7. Yxxo: TSM - pizza said:


  8. Popkern: BE. said:

    lol georgebaii in prem? NotLikeThis

  9. Chronos: BMS said:

    we allow http://etf2l.org/forum/user/104328/ as a merc

    it’s prem, you can use whoever as merc

  10. Popkern: BE. said:

    bottom mid heavy in prem lets go

  11. Afirax said:


  12. Leila: :3 - :Blinky: said:

    http://etf2l.org/forum/user/50117/ we use him as well

  13. kuli: (EF2TL Doatnor) - BMS said:

    gully: http://logs.tf/1385394
    via: http://logs.tf/1385439


  14. WML said:

    gg, good experience of getting thumped, more work to do next season I suppose, i’ll do my best :)

  15. Popkern: BE. said:

    you’re getting thumped in mid m8 dno why you’re letting yourself play prem

  16. yugo: tri_prsta said:


  17. HartzFartz: (ETF2L Donator) - 0fo - 0FO said:

    why are salty mid players posting here?

  18. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    one’s a UGC admin who complains where people shit talk him for no reason EleGiggle

  19. Popkern: BE. said:


  20. JoeN: :3 - :Blinky: said:

    request demos of 1pt and Just1s

  21. Chronos: BMS said:

    I forgot people do this. Requesting the demos of leila and hartz then :^)

  22. Just1s: AEUGH - CAKE said:

    there will be no demos from me #BlameMM

  23. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    HartzFartz: yahoo is such a tryhard, he goes offline in steamfriends so he doesnt get shittalked by me

  24. extrasolar: officer - TC said:

    23:49 – don’t touch my grinder 8): how did george do
    23:50 – scrambled <|:^): erm
    23:50 – scrambled <|:^): he wasnt great
    23:50 – scrambled <|:^): but he fitted the team well
    23:50 – don't touch my grinder 8): wow rekt

  25. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    I mean, there’s asking for demos, and then there’s checking the STV and requesting the players demos that didn’t display a p-rec message.

  26. Chronos: BMS said:

    Oh well, look on the brightside. Hartz’s demo will be amusing because of the loadouts and Leila’s will be comedy gold, we can all sit around and watch it later :)

  27. Leila: :3 - :Blinky: said:

    I wont say what is comedy for people

  28. Chronos: BMS said:

    Good job I’ve got that covered :)

  29. HartzFartz: (ETF2L Donator) - 0fo - 0FO said:

    just1s died after the round ended, I beat he deleted his pov because of it. 8)

  30. Just1s: AEUGH - CAKE said:

    Yup, definitely because of that. Your skill was just too gr8, so I couldn’t even walk away :)

  31. ETF2L Staff said:

    2.4 Every player has to record Demos

    Demos can be requested by an admin or any player of the opposing team.
    Admins may request demos up to the end of the competition the match was played in (until the wrap up post is published). They can request as many demos as they require.
    The opposing team can request demos up to 48 hours after the match was scheduled to start. They can request demos from up to 2 players, who will then have to provide their demos for all played maps.
    A player whose demos have been requested has 72 hours to upload the demo, starting from the time the request was made.
    Failure to supply a requested demo will be punished.

    2.4.1 Penalties for not providing requested demos

    Failure to supply a requested demo will result in one of the following penalties:
    – First time: Minor warning for the team. This warning can be removed once the requested demo is provided.
    – Second time: Major warning for the team. Player is banned for two weeks from all ETF2L competitions.
    – Third time: Player is banned for two months from all ETF2L competitions.

    Penalties are applied if a requested demo is not provided within 72 hours. Major warnings and bans are not removable.

    Feila eSports finanzieren durch DROPS have received 1 minor warning for failing to upload Leila’s demos.

    The Bureau receives a major warning, since this is Just1s’ second failure to upload a demo, and therefore he will be banned for two weeks. This warning can not be removed.

  32. Just1s: AEUGH - CAKE said:

    No comedy evening I guess :o

  33. Chronos: BMS said:

    I love the fact that we’re all more bothered about not getting to watch Leila’s demo than receiving warnings :’)

  34. WML said:

    rip bureau playoffs :o

  35. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    I assume that the whole thing about getting the warning removed for using an unapproved merc went no where?

  36. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    I mean I was a verified rostered bureau player for the entirety of the game, and bureau still had a default merc available to use should they have needed.

  37. Chronos: BMS said:

    We got a major anyway because just1s didn’t upload a demo in season 7, 1 1/2 years ago too. But yeah, game started at approx 21:15 cet, so scrambled was verified by the start. I would have just written he’s default merc otherwise. Seems an odd thing to get a warning for, likewise we get a warning for pause abuse vs premtech despite maito not trying to get one. Stong opinions paused vs us mid push on last and although I feel it’d be unfair for them to get a minor warning for that too, I feel there are double standards seeing as we got one in an exact same situation…

  38. Chronos: BMS said:

    The fact that Feila decided to go through the stv in order to find the 2 players that had no p-rec message is also completely out of the spirit of asking for demos. It should be to learn things tactically or to investigate cheating, whereas they deliberately do this in order to try to get us deducted points, which is just disgraceful seeing as we were incredibly polite and reasonable both prior to the game and for the entire duration. Teams shouldn’t be able to/allowed to abuse the demo request system in such a way

  39. 80x said:

    I can’t say anything nice about Bureau. They’re a team which on multiple occasions have shown their true colors to the competitive community: They care more about winning than actually playing. Strong Opinions is the stronger team, but if problems occur and forces SO to (for example) take a pause, Bureau will try their best to gain points from it. In conclusion: SO 6-0 Bureau, but Bureau will play dirty to get points.

    looks like you got a taste of your own medicine tbh

  40. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    can you give any examples of bureau doing that ATX?

  41. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    because over the last 2 seasons and UGC I can’t.

  42. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    also I suggest that people should use prec_notify 2 in order to stop people being dicks like that with the demo request system, 1pt had to record the demo manually and that’s why his demo was requested.

  43. Chronos: BMS said:

    @atx, your continued shit talking of so many people is why I deleted you on steam. Then since this you decide to shit talk me and my team like you have done many times about things that don’t concern you at all, it’s annoying and immature. There has never been once when I’ve tried to get a default and I’ve never denied mercs in an official and I’ve always let teams have as many pauses or anything they’ve possibly needed during or before games. You know absolutely nothing on the matter and yet again you are just shit talking about stuff *yawn*

    Scrambled 28th April 2016 at 3:38 pm Reply
    Now, me rushing to defend The Bureau may be seen as hypocritical to an extent, but I’m getting 2 conflicting stories here.

    According to the side I heard, Khazul could be referencing 3 games.

    Game 1: vs PremTech. A pause was called in death chat, as just1s timed out. PremTech never saw the pause call. Hardly clawing for points. Should also point out that Bureau allowed PremTech many pauses and 3 mercs.

    Game 2: vs Samsung Galaxy Gang. SGG shown up 2 hours late, the default was claimed about 1 hour and 30 minutes after the game was supposed to start. Again, not exactly clawing for points.

    Game 3: vs WASP. The server that was reserved by WASP ran out mid round of an official, both teams contacted admins asking for advice on what to do during the official, and the admin response was that Bureau would be allowed to choose whether or not to restart the round or carry on with the time that had been set by The Bureau on offence. Bureau originally decided to restart, but when WASP complained they agreed to just go with the original time.

  44. Detoed.: (inactive) said:

    stop crying scrambled,u noob anyway

  45. catman said:

    Lets make things clear.
    Leila requested demo becouse detoed ask joe to request it, so u cant blame them for it.
    As a team we think that we deserve more playoff spot than premtech or berau, so in thise case such things happen sometime.

  46. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    To be honest the fact that the demo request system was blatantly used in order to secure a playoff spot is even worse.

  47. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    Sorry about the shit talk feila, we thought you were just being dicks to us.

  48. Detoed.: (inactive) said:

    oh really,so we dont need follow the rules? he dont recording demos. why?
    2.4 Every player has to record Demos
    so stop shittalking and go away

  49. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    Everyone makes mistakes here and there Detoed, I don’t think its fair to scrutinize a team and pick up on every mistake they make.

    Rules are there for a good reason. I think its clear in this instance that the rule did not fulfill its function correctly.

  50. Chronos: BMS said:

    I’m not arguing about following the rules, just1s should have recorded his demos and he normally does. But doing something like that is completely disrespectful when as you very well know detoed, I and we’ve only been in really good sports when it’s come to allowing things and helping out wasp in the past in officials or whatever and we’ve seemingly got on well

  51. Detoed.: (inactive) said:

    ok its ur mind, so who care coz Premtech have easiest chance for going to playoffs so idk why we talking about all this

  52. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    I guess if you thought that Bureau really did play dirty to get points, this would be a taste of our own medicine.

    People were very upset when they heard that Bureau went around “playing dirty” (and rightly so), but now you do it and you’re saying that we shouldn’t care?

  53. Chronos: BMS said:

    @scrambled, I don’t think detoed or anyone who knows anything really thinks we’ve played dirty. But yeah, trying to fuck over another team and just1s in order to maximise one’s chance of playing in the playoffs is clearly playing dirty

  54. Detoed.: (inactive) said:

    lol what we do? we just ask about requesting demos, is this unfair?

  55. catman said:

    can somebody see any whines about what happened there?

  56. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    If bureau didn’t let you have your way there probably would be.

  57. Detoed.: (inactive) said:

    u now decisive factor was our match vs u when we won

  58. Chronos: BMS said:

    No, there was no whining. That was a game you guys won fairly, congratulations but is completely besides the point of this conversation

  59. catman said:

    Berau thought that 10 min is bad time to defend, best way to win that round woulde be trying to restart it, and get better time, yes?

    that was a dirty game, it didnt happened but the fact that u wanna that happen doesnt make u clear

  60. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    Bureau got every point this season fairly also, just so happens that we got one more point than you this season.

  61. catman said:

    We all whant to win , we use rulles to do so, natural election is here.

  62. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    The rules also allow the Bureau to choose whether to restart or not, maybe they should have.

  63. Chronos: BMS said:

    We both went and asked admins what was to be done in the situation where the server time runs out. We were told we could restart the round if the attacking team desired, we decided to do this but as you guys argued we decided to go with what you guys wanted to do despite it not being your decision to make as we didn’t want to upset you guys as we’d always got on well. I don’t see how that was dirty in any regards

  64. Detoed.: (inactive) said:

    “The rules also allow the Bureau to choose whether to restart or not, maybe they should have.”
    Are u retard? we ask u about it and u agree before this that we just need to end. “Klefsas : We can attack on another server; Popcorp lft : it’s possible ; вмѕ | Chronos ❤ Mayinka : yeah”

  65. Chronos: BMS said:

    The point was catman, that yes you guys used the rules but are definitely acting outside of the spirit of the rules and are abusing a system designed to find cheaters. Not to get teams deducted points or to hurt one’s playoff chances

  66. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    Can people not act sportsmanlike???????

  67. 1pt: CC said:


  68. catman said:

    no scrambled no, u forgot that stinson said that, u cant do what u whant to do, u will continue the match u wont restart it, do u forgot it?

    No chronas the situation had a different storyline. U wanted a restart of a game, and u prove your right to do so with admin decision, but if we wont found new admin to prove that we can continue our match, we woulde have to restart it.

  69. Chronos: BMS said:

    Not true, one admin said go along with whatever if that’s whag you guys want and another said that it’s our choice. We went with your choice to make things amicable with you

  70. Detoed.: (inactive) said:

    U AGREE before change server that we just need to end without restart

  71. Chronos: BMS said:

    Regardless, we were the ones who decided we would stop arguing and go with what the other team wanted. Besides the point too, but I guess there is not really any way you can address my previous comment

  72. catman said:

    If u woulde like to be good to us,(1) u wont write admin becouse u know how things are done in such situations. (2) admin gave u opportunity to chose and u chose what we dont whant. If u think that was a clear game, sorry i dont think so.

  73. Detoed.: (inactive) said:

    which arguing?are u fuckin kiddin me? U AGREE to end game

  74. Chronos: BMS said:

    We did not know what happens in this situation, it isn’t exactly a regular occurrence. We initially went with what you didn’t want and what we did before you guys argued and as a result of not wanting to upset you guys we agreed to go with what you guys wanted. No one mentioned this problem again and since we’ve all got on well until you guys decide to behave like this now

  75. Detoed.: (inactive) said:

    U agreed BEFORE change server , coz we end a round, so idk why we should restart it

  76. Chronos: BMS said:

    We didn’t…

  77. Chronos: BMS said:

    Restart it that is

  78. Detoed.: (inactive) said:

    “Klefsas : We can attack on another server; Popcorp lft : it’s possible ; вмѕ | Chronos ❤ Mayinka : yeah”

  79. Chronos: BMS said:

    And you did. After speaking to see what the appropriate thing to do is and being told it was our choice, we went with your choice. This is also completely out of context and doesn’t address my message at 17:35

  80. Seal: Gaston - S-O said:

    all this drama just to see who gets beaten by HP in playoff Dx

  81. Chronos: BMS said:

    @seal xD, yeah it would seem so. But we feel that unless premtech wins 6-0 tonight then it’s our right to get beaten in the playoffs and it shouldn’t be the subject of wasp trying to use the demo system to get us losing points ;)

  82. Detoed.: (inactive) said:

    guys,u have 2 minors before this game, its our fault too?:)

  83. 1pt: CC said:

    How is this relevant to the current situation? Your team had discovered a method of figuring out people who didn’t record demos (unless they had their prec set to “prec_notify 2”). You then chose two people who didn’t have the message in the chat, Just1s and I, unfortunately he fell victim to your tricks.

  84. Chronos: BMS said:

    no detoed, these are not your fault and also besides the point :)

  85. Detoed.: (inactive) said:

    1pt, we just ask about requesting demos, is this unfair? :)

  86. catman said:

    Chronos the thing is not in what u decided to do after our admin said that we gonna continue match. The thing is in your wish to restart a game.

    yahoo we want to play from the start
    yahoo we dont want that, we want to restart the round
    yahoo then default to us
    Klefsas I said that we will attack and if it will be faster than 10:17 so we will take round. And you agreed with that
    вмѕ | Chronos ❤ Mayinka we start entire thing again
    Klefsas Why?
    Klefsas You agreed with me
    вмѕ | Chronos ❤ Mayinka our decision


    That’s SO Steve! | ETF2L.org: Tell Bureau I’m ordering them to play this round as normal, if they fail to push in 10:17 you win

    THAT what admin said to u.

    But yes u coulde continue saying that bloodis is more powefull and his decision is better, but u dont do so, BUT THE FACK THAT U WANNA RESTART GAME IS IN THE CHAT LOG and only becouse steave saved us thise story ended like it ended

  87. Popkern: BE. said:

    Acknowledge the problem. Figure out what it is that’s causing you to hold a grudge. …
    Share your feelings. A grudge can form when an issue isn’t fully confronted. …
    Switch places. …
    Accept what is. …
    Don’t dwell on it. …
    Take the positive. …
    Let it go. …

  88. catman said:

    As for last word i woulde say that thise situation was not a revenge lt ls a cold calculation.Any team woulde get same shit as u if they woulde be in same situation.
    I dont blame for such thing and i dont give a fuck about such situations. If u ask my team chronos they woulde say that u done not good. Maybe your thughts were clear but we dont found them clear.
    Any team in prem made such shit that why TC are not prem.

  89. Chronos: BMS said:

    Klefsas also said that you guys would default us too, and this is Yahoo talking not me

    Yes, we made that decision on the grounds of an admin saying it was our initiative to do this. The admins disagreed, we didn’t want further conflict so we went with what you wanted and not what we wanted to avoid further conflict. I have said it was our initial decision to restart, as we were told we could by admin, I have said this throughout. But then we decided to just do what you guys wanted. However, after the game and ever since there has only been good will coming from me and seemingly you guys

    Well fair enough, you guys don’t care that you are abusing the rules to suit your own ends and are being unsporting. We are annoyed by this as it’s completely against the spirit of the rules that are meant for catching cheaters, not for getting points removed from another team

  90. catman said:

    Etf2l rules are not strong side of thise league. I hope the community asks for making it better is not as hard as adding and new flag.

  91. ETF2L Staff said:

    Just a clarification that a major penalty is not given if the last demo request(s) of the player is for a different team. As The bureau has accumulated 3 minor penalties with the minor, the major warning stays and cannot be removed.

  92. Leila: :3 - :Blinky: said:

    emjoy, thought have to wait for email from admins

  93. Asaaj said:

    Please never change, Highlander. :^)

  94. adysky said:

    comedy gold, idk why wasp is trying so hard they are not getting playoffs anyway

  95. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    So if a minor warning is removed for whatever reason the major warning cannot be removed for any reason???

  96. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    Cus we requested these minor warnings to be removed before the major was given :/

  97. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    Every one of our minors was just bs, seems like admins are really keen to jump down our throats for stupid things, feels very biased like there’s some favoritism.

  98. Detoed.: (inactive) said:

    scrambled, u crying again, u got ur minors from a lot of matches,u not follow the rules in game and when u got trouble with this u tell smth about that.

  99. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    can another wasp played shit talk me please I can’t understand this one.

  100. Just1s: AEUGH - CAKE said:

    Well pretty much the only proper warning was the 3rd one and that one was still because of rule abusing.
    It funny how ppl don’t really care about rules, but as soon as they can get gain from it they start following the rules word by word :)

  101. Menty: (๑╹ω╹๑ ) - Nein said:

    people getting mad about HL in 2016

  102. Klefsas: DTown - WASP said:

    That`s just sad, guys…

  103. Just1s: AEUGH - CAKE said:

    ^ Exactly

  104. Raptor: BTWFC - S-O said:


    You could have prevented that all by a) recording demos
    or b) not getting any minor warnings before

    I also doubt that admins are biased, they just do their job.

    Maybe you should just understand the rules better and if you don’t, you should ask an admin :)

  105. Clark: SDCK! said:

    That was a lovely night read, thank you very much. I was almost disappointed thinking this regular season would finish without a proper drama, but luckily it didn’t <3

  106. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    a) Its not as if we intentionally didn’t have one player record a demo as he removed p-rec for MM, our mistake, sure.
    b) The prior minor warnings were just bs.

  107. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    Should point out that the prior warnings were both down to admin discretion, so its not a case of understanding rules correctly.

  108. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    And they were both for very nitpicky things that didn’t affect the outcome of matches or etf2l services or anything of the sort. Literally only issued as a big fuck you to the Bureau.

  109. scrambled: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    This then followed on to allow WASP the opportunity to misuse the ETF2L demo request system to secure a playoff spot.

    This is a chain reaction of bullshit for the bureau that could have been stopped at any stage by an admin.

  110. Detoed.: (inactive) said:

    zakroi eblo uzhe

  111. HartzFartz: (ETF2L Donator) - 0fo - 0FO said:

    Detoed.: WASP said:
    Yesterday, 17:15

    ok its ur mind, so who care coz Premtech have easiest chance for going to playoffs so idk why we talking about all this

    I had a really strong laugh

  112. WML said:

    Man and I thought a Mid Heavy in Prem would be the only drama on this match page…

  113. Detoed.: (inactive) said:

    HartzFartz, ;)

  114. Goreston said:


  115. Grenja said:

    that is some classic drama.

  116. Hildreth: Pander - Pander said:

    Love me some e-drama.

    Just1s should record next time son. Whole thing can be avoided.

    That being said if Wasp got into playoffs despite winning less points, it would have been a bit of an injustice really. Right team is in playoffs, hope this Russian kid knows how to record in our game. :D

  117. streep36: (ETF2L Donator) - notdoggo - KAAS said:


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