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I quit for a while and now I suck. What do?

Created 18th November 2012 @ 21:16

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Trane

How did you get to the level you were at before you ‘quit’?

Whatever it was, do that.

Calme

“I can beat most div 4 soldiers now”
You must be div 3 then!!!

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Quoted from Calme

“I can beat most div 4 soldiers now”
You must be div 3 then!!!

Somehow I doubt 1on1 skills determine what div you are

zen1th

Pander
LEGO

Quoted from .

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Somehow I doubt 1on1 skills determine what div you are

Can’t slip anything past this guy.

Monkeh

.:ne:.
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Somehow I doubt 1on1 skills determine what div you are

I reckon you’ll find plenty of people on this here forum that disagree quite strongly…they’re wrong of course, but they wont believe it.

Pennyfarming

Quoted from Monkeh

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I reckon you’ll find plenty of people on this here forum that disagree quite strongly…they’re wrong of course, but they wont believe it.

I doubt that, MGE usualy does show how good you are because it shows your pure talent. It removes any external factors such as team mates or map choice and leaves only yourself and your pure skill vs the other guys pure skill.

It explains why baddies think MGE sucks or isnt useful because their skill sucks and they can only do good in 6v6 when they have a team to carry them LOL


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ash

(Legend)
Pander

Quoted from Pennyfarming

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I doubt that, MGE usualy does show how good you are because it shows your pure talent. It removes any external factors such as team mates or map choice and leaves only yourself and your pure skill vs the other guys pure skill.

It explains why baddies think MGE sucks or isnt useful because their skill sucks and they can only do good in 6v6 when they have a team to carry them LOL

MGE shows your DM skill. Agreed.

DM isnt what defines a team game tho, it’s one half of it. You can compensate for lack of DM with good decisions just as you can compensate for lack of brain with good DM. Good DM can carry you a long way, just as good decision making can carry you a long way.

Claiming either one is useless or overrated just shows how much your thinking is defined in black and white only.

herpderp

DAKKA

Quoted from ash

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MGE shows your DM skill. Agreed.

DM isnt what defines a team game tho, it’s one half of it. You can compensate for lack of DM with good decisions just as you can compensate for lack of brain with good DM. Good DM can carry you a long way, just as good decision making can carry you a long way.

Claiming either one is useless or overrated just shows how much your thinking is defined in black and white only.

Is it a German custom to engage the village idiot in a debate no matter how fruitless that may prove to be?

ash

(Legend)
Pander

Quoted from herpderp

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Is it a German custom to engage the village idiot in a debate no matter how fruitless that may prove to be?

Might as well be a Dutch custom :P

herpderp

DAKKA

Quoted from ash

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Might as well be a Dutch custom :P

Are you making yourself a village idiot to twist the analogy to your own favor?

ash

(Legend)
Pander

Quoted from herpderp

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Are you making yourself a village idiot to twist the analogy to your own favor?

I AM a village idiot.

Hank

FAINT

The only way for u to get better is to play a shitloads of DM,mixes and MGE (maybe some lobbyes) but i still prefer DM couse in DM there is like usually 5vs5 and thats the same amount of players that u will be fighting in 6vs6 (Im not counting the medic) Just keep playing DM few hours a day and u should get better or to the same level before you quit. AND DONT CHANGE YOUR SENS, KEEP TO ONE SENS!!!!

Monkeh

.:ne:.
.:ne:.

Quoted from Pennyfarming

MGE usualy does show how good you are because it shows your pure talent.

Talent at what? MGE? As has been discussed and argued about previously, having a high MGE rating might just mean you play MGE serious mode and use aforementioned ‘faggot’ tactics to win at all costs.

Quoted from Pennyfarming

It removes any external factors such as team mates or map choice and leaves only yourself and your pure skill vs the other guys pure skill.

Skill for me includes external factors and map knowledge. The best scouts know when to charge in and mop up, when to go back cap, how to get behind enemies at the right time, when to offclass etc. None of this matters one jot in MGE, dodging and aim, that’s what you train there, ‘skill’ in competitive TF2 simply has to include dodging, aim, map knowledge, enemy awareness, positioning, making and responding to calls, teamwork, gamesense and timing.

It’s all well and good pwning the jumping soldier as he tries to stop you capping spire, but if that x4 backcap you let through by not watching flanks continues you still lost mid and probably the round, so who’s the most skilful?

Quoted from Pennyfarming

It explains why baddies think MGE sucks or isnt useful because their skill sucks and they can only do good in 6v6 when they have a team to carry them LOL

I don’t think anyone thinks MGE sucks, it’s a decent way to train your DM and dodging, but that’s it. If you play a team game then your integration within that team is massively important and much more so than individual DM.

One scout with beast DM will still lose to 2 avearge scouts and a roamer watching flanks like hawks.

Another village idiot here… o/

AnimaL

id rather play with d1 scout who has no aim than d3 scout who has 2200 points in mge

cheers, u lose

Heck

98

Just ignore Penny, he’s just a troll. wow

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