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Quoted from Dummy

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why do people persist in saying w m1ing in the demos face is good

it actually makes it easy to hit scouts with pipes!

“only playing it for 8 month”

On subject…. Dodging will become natural eventually but try this.
Scouts – just adadadadada unpredictably maybe double jump strafing when you’re reloading if you can get above there head

Sollys – minimise the time you spend on the direct ground i.e. get a height advantage. Use boxes, crates, rocks ect… other then that keep your distance and count rockets. Height + meatshots = ez.

Demomen – this is actually the easiest when its pipes vs scouts (if they use stickies you literally do have to just bomb it towards them or away from them depending on where they sticky – take advantage of det time); for pipes vs scouts just do what you would vs a scout but take alot more time to just plain stop still. Most demomen like (subconciously) find predictable patterns in your movement and then aim off that, just stopping still suddenly can really put them off. For example: left right left stop left left stop right left right. It’s alot more predictable then adadadada at a different pace. Try not to jump vs demomen too… massive hitbox on pines makes u easy to hit.

Obvioulsy I’m just some div5 shitscrub scout, but this is what I’ve gathered from watching great player Koeitje play.

I didnt know that, about to stop moving vs demo. But I know 8 month is not enough compared to other scouts.

I think my aim is quite good for where I should play, but my strafing isn’t good too. When I played against div 4/3 scouts, their strafing was horrible. I mean I didnt see a scout strafe like that. Also you say not to jump vs scouts, but they did vs me, with pistol.

It was like I jump left and then i strafe right etc… But honestly i tried that and it’s hard as hell. >:D

Quoted from redou

I didnt know that, about to stop moving vs demo. But I know 8 month is not enough compared to other scouts.

I think my aim is quite good for where I should play, but my strafing isn’t good too. When I played against div 4/3 scouts, their strafing was horrible. I mean I didnt see a scout strafe like that. Also you say not to jump vs scouts, but they did vs me, with pistol.

It was like I jump left and then i strafe right etc… But honestly i tried that and it’s hard as hell. >:D

Well the stop moving thing I actually saw in one of carnages frag videos. I hadn’t seen other scouts do it and I was suprised how effective it was. It’s hard to do it all the time as it’s rare to get a 1on1 situation with a demoman; either he’s out of position or you are generally.

As far as the jump dodging goes. It’s pretty useless to try it when you’re on full ammo. I mean there’s more effective methods of dodgeing that allow you to aim more easily (read adadadadada), I generally only do it when I’m reloading so that I can concentrate on the movement and get a good curving arc.

Jump left, strafe right, double jump forward, strafe left – as an example. It’s useless if you just go left right and it’s also useless if your airstrafe is too predictable.

Tbf though if you watch stefan you can really see how he controls it and still aims at the same time. Playing offclassing demomen and sollys they generally just spam jump and flick shots. It’s hard to hit and can pay off. At the end of the day it’s all down to your playstyle. It’s probably more worth it if you concentrate on your positioning to get an advantage from the get-go instead of getting into bad situations and relying on dodgeing. Stefans is such a good scout because he has great dodging and amazing positioning, unlike someone like wltrs who’s more run in and meatshawt.

Quoted from Koeitje

Standing still can also work vs scouts. If you start moving right before he takes the shot it can be quite a bitch to hit you. The timing is hard though :D.

Meh, the scout has alot more control as its less about prediction for scouts (if you’re good anyway). I disagree… You small cow.

Quoted from Koeitje

Standing still can also work vs scouts. If you start moving right before he takes the shot it can be quite a bitch to hit you. The timing is hard though :D.

predz style

Just try and be annoying and unpredictable, like jump around a lot like a moron. The psychological damage is worth more sometimes.

In conclusion:

Do whatever you’re not supposed to do.