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What’s with the old school players invading ETF2L forums all of the sudden O.o

It’s fun on pubs, but I can’t see myself playing this competitively. Really torn between buying and not buying the game actually.

Quoted from Asaaj

Really torn between buying and not buying the game actually.

Quoted from kna

ah , I m beeing told that a p2p game, no thx !

How is that even an issue? Just like all big games it’s literally a game you either play for a night or for thousands of hours. They can double the price and the sales won’t be much lower since almost everyone who buys it expects to main that game.
Quoted from EmilioEstevez

Also what the fuck is this region shit. I can’t add people from USA to my friends list?

You can add them if you select the American region, but yeah, he wouldn’t show up if you’re logged in on EU. Pretty sure OW has a separate collection for each region as well just like in HS, and it’s actually a great marketing move.

Quoted from Fuxx

I’ve only had problems with Pharah’s and Tracer’s ult

“JUSTI-“*dies

Playing from time to time since november – but class balance is still worse than in Hearthstone.

Anyway, funny for pubbing with friends for 1-2 hours in a row, no more.

Quoted from Selek

Heroes of the Storm is to Dota 2 what Overwatch is to TF2.

Judging from a pub perspective on both games: I can’t see a way OW is more casual/goofy than TF2, everyone seems to forget that 44% of TF2 classes are Medic/Heavy/Engi/Pyro

Quoted from CbIHoK

class balance is still worse than in Hearthstone

HS has been ridiculously healthy class balance wise during the last few expansions. In the LoE meta Druid was nowhere near overpowered and Midrange Shaman was absolutely playable in top legend and all classes are/were almost equally seen on all levels of play, contrary to the claims of some people that the top “X” decks are all they see on ladder.

Going back to the topic: In a team game class balance isn’t even neccessary! This may sound absurd, but TF2 never had the class balance in the first place, can you even compare the power levels of Medic/Demo to those of Spy/Engi? TF2 is literally a game where you can suicide your entire team on some maps to force an ability of a single character. Sacrificing a weaker class for a stronger one is a great trade. And despite that highlander is still alive and kicking, just because the game itself plays out well. When I’m playing pyro I’m not concerned that the demo deals way more damage than I do, I’m more concerned about the different power levels of all the classes and how they end up creating a fun game to play.

Do you remember the small period of time when they lowered the demoman power level and the game became simply cancer? Even though the classes were more balanced in that period, the metagame was stagnant and boring as hell, Valve then quickly realized that a healthy game is not neccessarily made of classes with similar power levels, but rather from the fun environment the different classes and their varied power levels create.

Quoted from Carlos Kaiser

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Judging from a pub perspective on both games: I can’t see a way OW is more casual/goofy than TF2, everyone seems to forget that 44% of TF2 classes are Medic/Heavy/Engi/Pyro

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HS has been ridiculously healthy class balance wise during the last few expansions. In the LoE meta Druid was nowhere near overpowered and Midrange Shaman was absolutely playable in top legend and all classes are/were almost equally seen on all levels of play, contrary to the claims of some people that the top “X” decks are all they see on ladder.

Going back to the topic: In a team game class balance isn’t even neccessary! This may sound absurd, but TF2 never had the class balance in the first place, can you even compare the power levels of Medic/Demo to those of Spy/Engi? TF2 is literally a game where you can suicide your entire team on some maps to force an ability of a single character. Sacrificing a weaker class for a stronger one is a great trade. And despite that highlander is still alive and kicking, just because the game itself plays out well. When I’m playing pyro I’m not concerned that the demo deals way more damage than I do, I’m more concerned about the different power levels of all the classes and how they end up creating a fun game to play.

Do you remember the small period of time when they lowered the demoman power level and the game became simply cancer? Even though the classes were more balanced in that period, the metagame was stagnant and boring as hell, Valve then quickly realized that a healthy game is not neccessarily made of classes with similar power levels, but rather from the fun environment the different classes and their varied power levels create.

I’m not going to talk about anything else you’ve said but the main reason it was cancer is because scout became extremely OP during that time. They’re still probably the most powerful class at a high level but during that time it was insane.