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Quoted from CrashSite
tbh, I would prefer cigarettes and maybe alcohol to be banned over weed, as they have higher health risks.
The argument normal goes that getting rid of the law against weed stops things like the black market, but it wouldn’t the stronger weed would still be on sale illegally, and that is what all the teenagers would go after, at least in Britain, as people here are idiots and don’t understand self-control (I am aware I am included in this due to the vast amount of games I play).
Also strong weed can cause problems, for example by cousin now has severe paranoia due to a sustained period of smoking very strong weed, so there will still be problems, but I would prefer it to cigarettes and drink.
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Two reasons, harms other (potentially, although not really, although ppl are dumb in Britain, so maybe)
Should you let people kill themselves? Allow them to drink bleach, instead of trying to prevent them? Shall we get rid of education, as people always make the best decisions, and the age limit on cigarettes/drink/sex?
On the contrary, we should educate more and regulate. If people want to kill themselves let them – make the support readily available to them and try and intervene when possible all voluntarily though. I’m all for voluntary euthanasia. I think age limits are very important; you can’t make an educated decision when you haven’t received the education.
Yes people could harm others, no more than alcohol though. Give someone a kitchen knife, only a wanker is going to stab someone with it. Drugs generally don’t make people more violent I can tell you that from experience, if you’re a nice friendly guy and you take drugs it won’t make you more violent, give a twat drugs and he’ll pounce at the opportunity.
Quoted from Tapley ❤
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True freedom to rape and pillage? Legalizing drugs to me just gives out the message they are “ok to use”. If that barrier is removed you’d get more people trying every drug under the sun. Ever seen a heroin addict? Not nice.
Still though maybe it’ll be survival of the fittest, if you’re dumb enough to take hard drugs you deserve to die? I’m down with that.
Theres up sides and down sides to every option, but people who vote in this poll are probably just stinky stoners who want cheap and easy weed :p. I know plently of people who’ve used weed for like 10 years or so and quit and you can blatently tell the difference, they speak monotone without much emotion and seem a bit frazzled in the brain.
I spoke about the freedom to use whatever you want to. Thats something different then to rape someone. As long as you are not bothering someone else and therefore don’t mess with someone else his freedom, I don’t see the problem. You should have the freedom to make your own decisions, thats all. Why does someone forbids me to use something I want ? I can think for myself and I’m doing it to myself so why bother ?
But offcourse, the downsides;…
When do we allow people to make their own decisions ? Imo; whenever you’re mature ( 18 years old / 21 years old ). due to the fact that you at least need to have the proper thinking cabability to make these kind of decisions.
The only proper reason I can think of is the damage it does to the society.. People on drugs won’t achieve acadamics for example. ( well in most cases ). Einstein liked lsd :) But on the other hand, I like to chill out with a big fat joint after a hard day of work.. Just works for me I guess.
I apologise for the wall of text but can’t bother to change any.
Quoted from CrashSite
tbh, I would prefer cigarettes and maybe alcohol to be banned over weed, as they have higher health risks.
You’re aware the only reason these two aren’t banned is the fact that the governments all over the world make MILLIONS taxing them, right
You cant just say that cannabis is fine to use for everyone because there is no risk for your health. If you smoke every fuckin day it changes you. For some people in a good way others just gettin lazy and dumb over a period of time. When I smoked too much, friends said that I became a different person, just a dickhead when I’m not stoned ( they smoke cannabis themselves). As I trust them I made the decision to reduce it.
So here is my point: even though it doesnt give you a heartattack, its still a drug. Getting used to drugs or other simple things like the INTERNETZ or fast food or whatever will always freak you out, if you cant get them. Better dont get used to it, to avoid this and for safe use(other drugs) it would be better to regulate the selling. Better get some proper shit every weekend than punched stuff every day. It would be a long way to go until then if it is possible anyway. But i like the idea.
Cocain is a hell of a drug
As I said prefer weed over most other legal drugs, if they are to be made legal, but it is risks benefits system, one that is not going to change because of some petition.
On the point of euthanasia, there are tricky issues, for example is one in their right mind, will their views change, will people be forced into it by family and more people using it simply because it is more easily available, rightly or wrongly, the death of anyone can have profound effects on those left behind.
I am also in favor of it, but there are issues that need to be addressed, people tend to have a very black and white answer to issues, and when they are so complicated seems stupid to think that it is easy as yes or no. People can dedicate years and years writing reports and studies on these issues, but we all think we are so well-informed that we can model the future and predict events.
Quoted from CrashSite
The argument normal goes that getting rid of the law against weed stops things like the black market, but it wouldn’t the stronger weed would still be on sale illegally, and that is what all the teenagers would go after, at least in Britain
Uhm what? So why is there no black market for weed in the Netherlands? I can go into a coffeeshop and get swag or dank weed. Hell, I haven’t seen anyone sell weed on the street in Amsterdam or anywhere else where I have lived ever (the only places where weed is sold on the street in the Netherlands is near our borders with Germany and Belgium, and that street market is an effect of the closing of coffeeshops near the borders).
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Quoted from Swarlz
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Even if it does harm you, why is it illegal – let people do what the hell they want to do with their own bodies. It’s criminalising people for the sake of it
Pretty sure you’re criminalizing yourself by going against the law.
Quoted from Waebi
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You’re aware the only reason these two aren’t banned is the fact that the governments all over the world make MILLIONS taxing them, right
Not the only reason, for example those companies have a lot of lobbying money and are also owned by powerful people. Here the government has to pay for those same people to get treated under the NHS, which costs money, although I think I remember D2M posting figures showing it was less than was made in taxes on those products. But if someone dies from those products they will also pay less taxes as they die sooner.
Funny crashsite, I think people over think these situations and read into things far too deeply and ask questions that are irrelevant to the answer. like “Did you know 5/10 Nazi’s smoking weed” Ban this shit.
Quoted from herpderp
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Uhm what? So why is there no black market for weed in the Netherlands? I can go into a coffeeshop and get swag or dank weed. Hell, I haven’t seen anyone sell weed on the street in Amsterdam or anywhere else where I have lived ever (the only places where weed is sold on the street in the Netherlands is near our borders with Germany and Belgium, and that street market is an effect of the closing of coffeeshops near the borders).
Is there a limit on strength of the weed in NE, I must confess my ingorance on the subject. Also people in Britain are not as good at learning when to stop as people in NE I would be willing to bet.
Quoted from CrashSite
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Is there a limit on strength of the weed in NE, I must confess my ingorance on the subject. Also people in Britain are not as good at learning when to stop as people in NE I would be willing to bet.
You’ve just got to look at binge drinking to see that.
Quoted from Swarlz
Funny crashsite, I think people over think these situations and read into things far too deeply and ask questions that are irrelevant to the answer. like “Did you know 5/10 Nazi’s smoking weed” Ban this shit.
Really? I find people on the internet talk shit and pull stats out of their asses to try and backup a point. People who are arguing intelligent points rather than stupid ones, like the example you posted, are the ones who I was referring to, a slight arrogance perhaps, my point is that not everything is clear cut and you have to think about both sides before leaping to a conclusion.
Case in point would be unlocks debate in TF2, I think both sides went to a conclusion before thinking it through, even if one is correct, the people who jumped to it initially did so for the wrong reasons.
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Still waiting for you to reply to my post.
Also still waiting for you to actually play competitive tf2 and therefore have an actual reason to be on these forums.
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What’s a civilised world if a random man/woman that is put in charge by other people tells you what you can and can’t do with your body, otherwhise they will take your money or put you in a cage? Seriously, can’t stand this arrogance… It’s not like our society is perfect.
heard of this lil thing called sharia? you should check it out.
i dont mind their retrogressive ways of life as long as it doesnt affect me, but theyre going for the government to make developed nations on par with the sad excuses of countries they originate from.
anyway, i digress. abandoning topic
edit: i usually hang out in the support forum and help people. probably been in the game longer than you, having attended every CPL up until 2004
edit2: replaced aids-ridden with “sad” to make it easier on you angsty types. dont want no estrogen levels rising LOL
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