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Quoted from DuPe

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Well if you try to push from bottom you get spammed like hell and top left is small place.

yea, nothing like the old freight

nay ;[

Quoted from kaidus

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Perhaps they really enjoy the current freight and don’t want to lose it? I’m not just trying to play devils advocate here as I actually prefere the look of the new freight, but it won’t be until freight_final has had a lot of play testing (ie. more than it’s going to get prior to inclusion/exclusion from the map cycle) for anyone on the fence to decide which they prefere. If they don’t think the original is broken then why try to upgrade it? It presents no percieved benefits, but instead a large risk that a map they enjoy will be gone.

Och aye man! I’m not denying people their opinions, but it’s a pretty common occurrence here to see people panning new maps or versions on a knee-jerk reaction.

The masses declared Gullywash to be a “shit map” many moons ago yet now it is loved by many and producing some of the most memorable matches of recent times.

I’d just like to see some more constructive criticisms :>

Quoted from kaidus

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Perhaps they really enjoy the current freight and don’t want to lose it? I’m not just trying to play devils advocate here as I actually prefere the look of the new freight, but it won’t be until freight_final has had a lot of play testing (ie. more than it’s going to get prior to inclusion/exclusion from the map cycle) for anyone on the fence to decide which they prefere. If they don’t think the original is broken then why try to upgrade it? It presents no percieved benefits, but instead a large risk that a map they enjoy will be gone.

But the original Freight WAS broken. Everybody knew it too. Spawn times, horrendous to attack last, boring mid for heavy classes.

Nobody deserves devil’s advocate when their posts are three letters long. These are the same types of people who said “nay” to the kritzkrieg and “nay” to Gullywash.

Read Jimmy Breeze’s posts. He actually makes reasoned arguments and offers direct insight from the mapper himself. His posts alone should get the map in next season. (That and two scrims. I guarantee you’ll prefer it.)

Had some really good matches on this map, great improvement.

I say no. Reason being that second has become a lot less fun to both attack and defend, and attacking last feels like I’m invading normandy on D-Day both in looks and how it plays out.

I like the changes to mid though.

yey

it looks like a revamp of freight_final
which was the best freight so far imo
(no respawncamp, better spawntimes, harder to defend 2nd, harder to snipe on last)
definitely YaY