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Cup structure?

Created 9th February 2010 @ 17:24

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Bury.

internecine

Hi, i’m just curious as to why in the cup; are the teams randomly paired off every round through a random(?) system, rather than it working like an actual tree.

proper tree http://etf2l.org/etf2l/archives/3/1/
random tree http://etf2l.org/cup/tree/

d2m

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derptex9

Yeah, random every round as per previous season cups :) Was mentioned in the opening 5th cup news post.

I think it adds a bit more excitement to the cup… a little magic like the FA Cup draw :D

Edit: Draw is made live in #etf2l. The next one will be Sunday 21st Feb around 22:30-23:00CET.

DeNeusbeer

(Legend)
HoT<3

ETF2L have introduced this format for their main cup 20 months ago, and it is still exactly the same as it was then. I’m surprised you only just noticed, being around so long and all.

As some would say: It’s a feature.

Bury.

internecine

Cups do not interest me greatly. The ‘main cup’ being since the 3rd I take it, to keep this formula.
Still curious as to why have it like this, if it IS actually random, is there not a chance of having top teams fighting each other in round 1 or 2 as opposed to a final, and having some fun division 6 team versus dignitas in the final, as great as it sounds; I doubt it would be much of a spectator match.

Such as the ESH lower bracket finals last night; would it have had such a good game being paired off using this random system? Just thoughts…

d2m

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derptex9

Quoted from Bury.

Cups do not interest me greatly. The ‘main cup’ being since the 3rd I take it, to keep this formula.
Still curious as to why have it like this, if it IS actually random, is there not a chance of having top teams fighting each other in round 1 or 2 as opposed to a final, and having some fun division 6 team versus dignitas in the final, as great as it sounds; I doubt it would be much of a spectator match.

Such as the ESH lower bracket finals last night; would it have had such a good game being paired off using this random system? Just thoughts…

The FA Cup works in the same way :p More often than not you get a decent final. I think it’s nice to have a competiton where a low team can potentially get through a couple of rounds.

Also, it most definitely is random. Each team is randomly assigned a number by the bot – these are then shared in the channel. The IRC bot then picks the teams live in the channel.

It’s one of my favourite features in the league :3

Edd

T2P

yeah it really is nice playing idk for our second round, :@

infussle

Quoted from d2m

I think it adds a bit more excitement to the cup… a little magic like the FA Cup draw :D

+1
If the cup wasn’t random at all, how would you go about the initial draw?

Bury.

internecine

Quoted from infussle

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+1
If the cup wasn’t random at all, how would you go about the initial draw?

Seedings…
Even so; the point is that it’s random every round; not just the initial.

ca††

SNH

Quoted from d2m

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[…]
Also, it most definitely is random. Each team is randomly assigned a number by the bot – these are then shared in the channel. The IRC bot then picks the teams live in the channel.
[…]

Still, it isn’t really random, the bot still follows some principals by assigning those numbers. After all a bot would need to have self conciousness to assign totally random numbers. And totally random doesn’t really exist.

d2m

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derptex9

Quoted from ca††

[…]

Still, it isn’t really random, the bot still follows some principals by assigning those numbers. After all a bot would need to have self conciousness to assign totally random numbers. And totally random doesn’t really exist.

Cool story!

Skyride

DUCS

Quoted from ca††

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Still, it isn’t really random, the bot still follows some principals by assigning those numbers. After all a bot would need to have self conciousness to assign totally random numbers. And totally random doesn’t really exist.

0.o

Computers have had random number generators for longer than they’ve had keyboards

Waster

http://xkcd.com/221/

Randdalf

(0v0)

Yes, the magic of the FA Cup, I went to every round of Portsmouth’s winning year 8)

Azdean

WTH!?

Play up pompey!! Ahhh good times, good times.

d2m

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derptex9

Quoted from Randdalf

Yes, the magic of the FA Cup, I went to every round of Portsmouth’s winning year 8)

Oh hi local friend :D I’m in Chichester

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