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Soldier Weps, Overpowered or not?
Created 18th December 2009 @ 05:13
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FAN – remove vertical knockback/stun completely
Direct Hit – remove minicrits completely
Buff Banner – shorten to 5 seconds and make the rage system work properly, eg. put it down to 500/750 damage and have none of this multiplier shit going on.
I quite understand how people loved the way it was before updates, cause the last update was on clases used not so quite oftenly ( sniper/spy ) and therefore there was a LOT of time to get used to FaN and medic updates. But when 2 mega spammy, medic protecting, ground holding, rocket jumping clases are there in the line to get upgrades – it turns out that the nerve of comunity is no more slightly pained, but it’s just ripped out in the core and you see kazilion of topics how competitive “feels” about these changes. How did you get use to play with/against FaN, bonk, kritzkrieg, Cloack&Dadger and any other updates? You played, you addapted. What’s the difference here? Only the class and the weapons is overpowered ( for now ). Why should you make these pointles arguments? Can’t see anything hard to forbid the weapon in league until it’s more comp. friendly or at least the mini crit is nerfed.
Last edited by DominiX,
I’m pretty sure that we’ve been able to cope with much worse unlocks than these. Why the sudden drama? It’s not like we’re reaching a breaking point or anything. We probably only have one more class update left anyway.
Don’t forget about the good unlocks…
-Flare gun
-Axetinguisher
-Sandvich
-Blautsauger
-Kritzkrieg
-Ubersaw
-Ambassador
-Cloak & Dagger
It proves that whilst valve pipes a lot of shit into the game there are quite a few good parts. I’d be sad to see these lot go from comp play.
Edit: Ironically 8 good unlocks in 8 class updates, expect one more decent unlock for the engi.
Last edited by Ched,
direct hit – remove minicrit
pickaxe – cant be healed for 10seconds after using it
buff banner – only kritz for soldier + nearest mate
I’m pretty sure that we’ve been able to cope with much worse unlocks than these. Why the sudden drama? It’s not like we’re reaching a breaking point or anything. We probably only have one more class update left anyway.
The shitstorm is caused because a potential 50% of the game can have brand new load outs at any given time, whereas before it was 1/6 max.
Great, the ban buffer is now totally useless in tf2. You can’t build this weapon in comp play anymore. gg valve
It takes much more damage then only one minicrit-instagib on scout. I hope you’re happy about that. With building rate like that I doubt that lot of soldiers will change theire trusty shotty or maybe gunboats to banner now.
I was trying out the buff banner yesterday and its certainly quite effective, though tbh I thought it needed to have more building, tried it again today and well .. its quite a bit too hard. Trusty shotty it is :D
Just played as BB solly in a pcw and to me it’s definitely not worth it.
There were about 8 situations where I switched to secondary just to find the useless horn.
Overall the banner buff didn’t seem to have a big influence (the few times someone actually managed to get it filled), if that’s representative for average 30 minute games then fair enough, allthough a change to the duration would be nice. Probably more devastating in the hands of div1/2 teams though.
Last edited by Fluffy Meowington,
I doubt that buff banner even needs a ban now. The amount of damage required can take a while to build. In a way it’s a high risk high reward weapon.
Buff banner is quite useless atm.
The duration and amount of damage required to fill it should be lowered.
Last edited by RaCio,
Man, you guys Are hard to satisfy. We should be sucking valve’s dick by long ago, they have made so many modifications and you guys Are still ungrateful. “remove the minicrit, ban the fan, make it sligthtly faster, increase splash damage slightly, this weapon is owerpowered, no this weapon is Even more unbalanced”.
There Are more essays in this topic rather than constructive discussion. If you Think a weapon is overpowered then your wrong. For example: let say a soldier prefered to use TDH, he can instagib yes, but he is also taking a risk by loosing a lot of splash damage, and the enemy is aware of that, so in order to take him out they change a way of approach individually. A weapon, regardless of which one, is lethal in the right hands, so nothing is really overpowered, some ppl just master the use of it, in a better way. A spy can instant-kill with a backstab, should he also be banned? These unlockables keeps the game fresh and opens upp some new strategic-creativity. Sure you guys look at the negative sides now, but every weapon has strong side as it has a weak one also, same with classes. If you dont want to Get instagib’ed, then change your way of playstyle.
In the end: this topic is getting way to long, so i suggest we end this shit-tossing and continue playing.
In the end: this topic is getting way to long, so i suggest we end this shit-tossing and continue playing.
No. I hate everything you stand for.
Man, you guys Are hard to satisfy. We should be sucking valve’s dick by long ago, they have made so many modifications and you guys Are still ungrateful. “remove the minicrit, ban the fan, make it sligthtly faster, increase splash damage slightly, this weapon is owerpowered, no this weapon is Even more unbalanced”.
There Are more essays in this topic rather than constructive discussion. If you Think a weapon is overpowered then your wrong. For example: let say a soldier prefered to use TDH, he can instagib yes, but he is also taking a risk by loosing a lot of splash damage, and the enemy is aware of that, so in order to take him out they change a way of approach individually. A weapon, regardless of which one, is lethal in the right hands, so nothing is really overpowered, some ppl just master the use of it, in a better way. A spy can instant-kill with a backstab, should he also be banned? These unlockables keeps the game fresh and opens upp some new strategic-creativity. Sure you guys look at the negative sides now, but every weapon has strong side as it has a weak one also, same with classes. If you dont want to Get instagib’ed, then change your way of playstyle.
In the end: this topic is getting way to long, so i suggest we end this shit-tossing and continue playing.
Where the fuck r u ?
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