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Quoted from DoN_CORL3onE

I got one question for the admins, cause the rules aren’t so clear about it.

A player banned by VAC can actually play in etf2l competitions? And if he can, WHY?

Depends which engine they are VAC banned on AFAIK, if they are banned on 1.6/TF2 or some other HL1 engine game they’ll still be able to play on VAC secure TF2 servers.

Ah sry, i forgot to search for “HOW TO GET MORE CHEATER INTO MY LEAGUE”

….i’ll do next time ;)

thanks it’s great to HAVE to play with ex-cheaters!

Quoted from DoN_CORL3onE

Ah sry, i forgot to search for “HOW TO GET MORE CHEATER INTO MY LEAGUE”

not THIS again. guess what would a formerly banned player do if he wants to play tf2 badly but’s not allowed because of a silly rule which doesn’t let you play again. right he’d just create a new one right away and would buy tf2 for a very few euros. everything that changes here is that you doesn’t even know that the dodgy player used to hack in the past. but if he’s allowed to play his account then you can be sure some admins are already having a deeper look into his play-style which is probably something for your safety.

Quoted from Norris

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not THIS again. guess what would a formerly banned player do if he wants to play tf2 badly but’s not allowed because of a silly rule which doesn’t let you play again. right he’d just create a new one right away and would buy tf2 for a very few euros. everything that changes here is that you doesn’t even know that the dodgy player used to hack in the past. but if he’s allowed to play his account then you can be sure some admins are already having a deeper look into his play-style which is probably something for your safety.

I understand your point mate, but answer me a question pls.

If I’m a poor guy who can’t play decently and i’m thinking about using cheats, which rule could persuade me to do not use cheats? We got 2 options:

1) if the rule says “if u get caught cheating u can never play again”, the poor guy will think that maybe it’s better to do not cheat, that if this happens and he being caught he’ll have to buy a new account and probably he’ll lose every friend on this game and so he should start everything from the beginning.

2) if the rule says “if u get caught cheating u’ll play but WE KNOW WHO U ARE”, the same poor guy can probably think “hey maybe i can try to cheat, cause even if i get caught i’ll just have to do not use cheats anymore…but if they don’t caught me i can own everyone!!!!!”

The main purpose of every law is to deter people from committing certain actions with the threat of certain consequences.
The actual rule has the opposite function. Think about it.

For Hellfish: what’s the problem with you?

Quoted from DoN_CORL3onE

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I understand your point mate, but answer me a question pls.

If I’m a poor guy who can’t play decently and i’m thinking about using cheats, which rule could persuade me to do not use cheats? We got 2 options:

1) if the rule says “if u get caught cheating u can never play again”, the poor guy will think that maybe it’s better to do not cheat, that if this happens and he being caught he’ll have to buy a new account and probably he’ll lose every friend on this game and so he should start everything from the beginning.

2) if the rule says “if u get caught cheating u’ll play but WE KNOW WHO U ARE”, the same poor guy can probably think “hey maybe i can try to cheat, cause even if i get caught i’ll just have to do not use cheats anymore…but if they don’t caught me i can own everyone!!!!!”

The main purpose of every law is to deter people from committing certain actions with the threat of certain consequences.
The actual rule has the opposite function. Think about it.

For Hellfish: what’s the problem with you?

Ye, if only all cheaters were poor guys this would be the way to go

well they suffer a league ban for at least one year and they are marked as cheaters. ain’t it enough justice? it’s not like they cheat, get caught and are allowed to keep playing. their e-image (LOL?) is pretty much ruined. look at guys like abra. even if they’d try to play as clean and transparent as possible.. it’s pretty obvious that nobody will ever consider them serious anymore.

// err I see I drifted into TF2 bans. guess we were talking about HL1 bans. so pretty much ignore this post :p