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I agree it should be tested first but.. u cant say it’s a random crit when it is planned and part of the game..

Ban sniper head shots and spy knife attacks!!! THEY ARE REALLY ANOYING :)

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Nah Byte it was my fault. It was late and I didnt think about how I worded it. I am all for allowing it in S3 but I dont think it would be fair to allow it straight away in current competitions.

I also did it because I could see getting all sorts of questions about it so I made it clear before any confusion happened, with the possibility of arguements over a game happening while admins discussed whether to allow it or not.

depch: “These weapons give skill based abilities, nothing random. Thus it should be in a competitive gaming of _TF2_. Yep this is TF2 and the game is evolving. I understand some die hard fanatics of trying to keep the way it was like in tfc/qwtf but this is a totally different game.”

so for you its skill that soldier fires a rocket like 8m from your feet and you still die?

“so for you its skill that soldier fires a rocket like 8m from your feet and you still die?”

That sure does make it sound like harsh, but that’s missing the aspect of gamewise situations, when to use the kritz on what game situations. As our conversation in private it was mostly the points of views in these situations.

– You said that rushing with a demo/sol would ruin the game most propably and give insta wins and would mostly cause some clans just to stick back to second point.

That indeed could be disastrous and that’s why it should be tested out.

– My point of view was it would be propably pretty hard for the medic to stay alive in the middle unless the the team with making the kritzrush has totally annihilated the other team earlier (for example demo down, maybe scouts) and that would’be the situation where the other team would have backed out (if they’re any smart), also it would most likely need more communication from the team against, to anticipate that they’re prolly gonna rush in now.

Theoretical, yes, it just should be tested out, can’t really say anything about it yet, only theory. :)

There are few questions about the kritz that I’m curious about too so we would really get the thing how it would turn out.

– How long does the kritzkrieg last on a player after switched off?
– When the kritzkrieg wears off from a player, are his projectiless still crit damage when fired _during_ kritzkrieg

Those questions mostly would answer how usefull it would be to kritzkrieg a demoman for a jump to get the sitting ducks from the corner in for example pro granary.

These would pretty much answer is demo-medic rush really that deadly when using kritzkrieg (or soldiers of course).

But let’s just test it out and come to conclusions after that. :)

ROFL :D:D:D:D:D 295 x 8 = 2360 damage LMAO + 4 x 353 = 1412

grand total of 3772 damage LOLTASTIC :D

First medic to give me kruber i shall love them forever :D rofl thats insane 3772 :/ thats like 8 heavy weapon guys :/ :D? (assuming these are all direct etc :P)

Cheers

Byte

random crits are useless, kritzkreig however, is a weapon that creates different tactics. we played with it today, and dam. the game was incredibly fast and fun. i think the tf2 scene would do good with a kritzkreig or two. its not like every team is gonna use it, some may still use regular uber. but yeah, i think its a nice spice to the game. really brings variety to the game and tactics.

cheers

I agree that dropping in kritzkrieg in the middle of the competitions isn’t the right way to go – but I’m all for allowing it for season 3.